So Thursday's maintenance is supposed to bring crafting/gardening adjustments...

[Verdan]

Are you seriously saying that leatherworkers have it hard to get money

[Gunspec]

Are you seriously saying that leatherworkers have it hard to get money

Money is much less an issue for some people (like me) than simply leveling a thing. When you have a levequest that says "bring me leather", and the skins you need have a stupidly low drop rate, that is a problem for leveling.

And speaking about levequests...

In 2.0, when you did a levequest, there was a relatively decent chance that the quest reward would involve a material needed for the NEXT tier of levequests. Back when dew thread, fleece and boar skins were terrible to farm, you could easily get hundreds of those items by completing the lower tier levequest. I used to do cotton levequests to earn diremite webs, then use the +200 direwebs for the next tier of quests. Linen levequests rewarded fleece, and so on.

3.0 crafting levequests reward me with a whopping 13 crystals. Whoo boy, that's really going to help my next tier of leveling.

Edit:
Just want to throw out there that I was initially very frosty about the way craft leveling works in 3.0, but upon learning Aetherial Reduction on my gathering classes, I'm no longer upset. Some drop rates are horrible, and I feel bad for the crafters just starting to level in 3.0, but when you consider that we no longer need to spend hours farming elemental crystals for synthesis, I don't mind the harder to obtain reagents. The challenge is now in getting the skins, not in farming/buying RMT skittles.

[Mutemutt]

So I'm hearing you can get millions of gil without the help of crafting or gathering, but besides selling runs I can't actually see any way to really do that. In that light, I think the market prices are pretty brutal for most things worth buying.

[Wavaryen]

Lmao@Punish. You people are kidding me right? Putting forth Effort to make gil is not a bad thing. Punish Crafters? I am shocked, well no not really. I should know how this community can be.

If you want the stuff, Pay the Gil. If you want to be lazy, you don't deserve gil. /end

[Nadirah]

Dude I am leveling up my crafts now and they basically cost nothing to level. For example you buy rainbow cotton boll and cotton boll to make rainbow thread then take that thread and turn it into cloth. You then sell the cloth back on the market boards you just made a profit all your gil back and then some. Crafting really doesn't cost anything to level just time.

Gear.

Doesn't cost crap to level it, it costs gil for the gear.

You can also send your DoL retainer to a 18 hour field exploration X to get a chance on a gathering/crafting materia III without the need to get crafting gear for spiritbounding.

Don't have one. Don't have DoL high enough to bother making a retainer of yet.

Alright. I just wanted to put this out there:

You don't make that kind of gil without either buying it, playing the market, having immensely epic RNG with rare minions, having high end crafting skills or selling your house on a high pop server.

I can't even HQ quest items my RNG is so bad.

And overmelding is what broke crafted accessories in Coil. They're why they won't make good crafted gear. Get rid of overmelding and you can have crafted gear that's a viable alternative.

[Felis]

So I'm hearing you can get millions of gil without the help of crafting or gathering, but besides selling runs I can't actually see any way to really do that. In that light, I think the market prices are pretty brutal for most things worth buying.

try it with reselling
as an example: Buy crafting gear from the NPC at the moogle village for 9k gil, sell it on the MB for 30k gil

Or send out your DoW/DoM retainer out every hour to farm hides.

[Tsunenori]

I've felt for a while that the systems they've introduced for crafting/gathering are great for people who love to spend time on those but rather poor for people who simply want to be self-sufficient without having to dive in deep on them. I really enjoyed leveling all my DoH/DoL during 2.0/2.1 but with 3.0 it's been a much bigger struggle. Mainly with regards to drop rates more than anything. I don't really understand why they would fix the problem of limited enemies with limited quantities before and then re-introduce it with Heavensward, but, I guess it'll just take a lot longer to get where I'm going casually compared to the hardcore crafters who dedicate to it. Today is only one month out from release anyway so there's plenty of time for systems to change and develop over upcoming patches.

[Arkista]

So 16 archaeskins in the same time I can make 200 mythril nuggets, cedar lumber, or rainbow thread. See the problem now?

Adjust the drop rate for the skin problem solved. Think they did that to Fleece way back when.

snip.

I'm going give you a tip, Stop leveling your crafts and go and level either MNR or BTN ( I hate Fishing). You'll have all the Gil you need to fund all your crafting classes. There are so many low level items that are selling for 300gil+ each.

[Zumi]

Gear.

Doesn't cost crap to level it, it costs gil for the gear.

You can make all your own starter gear 60 gear once you have everything at 60. The best gear will be released in a couple days will take red scrips to buy which are capped on a weekly lockout.

[Waeksyn]

I will start selling stuff on the MB's for ultra low prices when EVERY elitist raider starts offering free carries through any raid of my choosing until my DoW has top notch equipment.