The positive Astrologian thread!

[GideonHighmourn]

What does that even mean? There's no reason for different jobs to perform the same with the same strategies.

And this is what you misunderstand. No one is asking for AST to perform exactly the same function in the previous meta that WHM/SCH would have. They're asking for them to be able to match/compete with their own meta. Currently, AST doesn't compete in the previous meta or create their own, new meta which can compete with the previous one. This is what leads to AST not being taken in progression groups.

[Bovinity]

And this is what you misunderstand. No one is asking for AST to perform exactly the same function in the previous meta that WHM/SCH would have. They're asking for them to be able to match/compete with their own meta. Currently, AST doesn't compete in the previous meta or create their own, new meta which can compete with the previous one. This is what leads to AST not being taken in progression groups.

Yeah, I'd like to see a situation where WHM/AST is useful, letting the WHM do the bulk of the direct healing while the AST boosts the group DPS significantly and provides damage mitigation (disable/shields) and/or emergency heals.

The problem is that even with something like that, the SCH would still end up doing it better right now.

[TatoRazzino]

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People are asking that in almost all threads, Gideon, and most of them are not even trying to learn AST properly. There are people saying that the only thing that raises dps is an Enhanced Balance and that they're having trouble setting that combo. That's basically the worst possible strategy for cards to be used; there's only like 3% chance you'll get that combo in two Draws. Another example: people get a Bole and say it's shit when there's no tank buster. They don't realize that, by using the Bole during normal damage, gives you (or your healing partner) breathing room to conserve MP or DPS - that's value right there. It's like saying that a crit Adlo when there's no tank buster is shit because you don't need that for regular damage. You, as a main SCH, knows that the purpose of the double shielding in Adlo is not to shield tank busters; your regular Adlo has to be enough, otherwise your tank will get busted like 70% of the time.

[Bovinity]

People are asking that in almost all threads, Gideon, and most of them are not even trying to learn AST properly. There are people saying that the only thing that raises dps is an Enhanced Balance and that they're having trouble setting that combo. That's basically the worst possible strategy for cards to be used; there's only like 3% chance you'll get that combo in two Draws.

Sure, but that's kinda their point...it's so rare that you'll get something impactful that it's almost comical.

Yes, the other cards CAN have utility, but you'll likely not get them at times when it'd matter, and pretty much every single effect can be done better and/or more reliably by other classes.

(I still think it'd be cooler if the deck behaved like an actual deck and you had to cycle through all the cards before re-shuffling and getting a new set, or something similar.)