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  1. #141
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    Ariel_Valmont's Avatar
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    Bella Ciao
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Although I see some valid points, I do agree that we need to keep talking about how awesome astrologians are. There seems to be 101 different threads with people debating back and forth. On a positive note, we downed Faust tonight and got to start working on the oppressor. Sure I may be a week behind all the "top" fc groups. But I am having fun. And that's the important thing. Keep on slinging them stars
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  2. #142
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TatoRazzino View Post
    I never had problems with the lower potency. Other people are. I love the job and I believe in its strength when played well. If 20/30 less potency in some spells give you guys such a hard time, by all means, stop playing the job and go to the "easier" ones, since they don't have any restrictive mechanics and no weaknesses. Leave AST for those who can, and want, to do it.
    Again, potency is not AST's problem. Their biggest problem is that they bring very little to the table that other healer Jobs can't do better by design. This supposed skill ceiling at which the Job becomes on par with its peers doesn't exist; merely being adequate to clear content doesn't cut it when the other two Jobs are stronger and overall push better raid numbers given equivalent skill and group comp.

    Now that I've issued constructive criticism, let me take a shot of kool-aid: the artwork and style of AST is one of the reasons I want to see the Job become competitive, because it's gorgeous in play and feels "fun" to me. The attention to detail like the dissolving motes of shadow following Gravity and Combust is amazing.
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  3. #143
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    Zirael_Foxfire's Avatar
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    Zireael Stargaze
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Well, Astrologian is better healer than Paladin ^^
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  4. #144
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    Bovinity Divinity
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Again, potency is not AST's problem. Their biggest problem is that they bring very little to the table that other healer Jobs can't do better by design.
    It's a shame that the job doesn't have a significantly different healing style or something.

    I don't want to make comparisons to other games, but consider Resto Druid, Holy Paladin, Disc Priest...all wildly different. Even WHM and SCH are pretty different!

    Meanwhile it's like AST wants to be a mini-WHM or something, which makes it very easy to compare the toolkits and see that one is just not bringing as much to the table.
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  5. #145
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    positive... hum... they have the best LB, beautiful actions, weapon looks good and they can heal the normal content just fine
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  6. #146
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    Ariel_Valmont's Avatar
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    Bella Ciao
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Again, potency is not AST's problem. Their biggest problem is that they bring very little to the table that other healer Jobs can't do better by design. This supposed skill ceiling at which the Job becomes on par with its peers doesn't exist; merely being adequate to clear content doesn't cut it when the other two Jobs are stronger and overall push better raid numbers given equivalent skill and group comp.

    Now that I've issued constructive criticism,
    I see a lot of people, not just you. Using the term constructive criticism, which is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one, to describe their more blatent criticism of this job.
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  7. #147
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    A good example of constructive criticism would be. Although I find the card system of the astrologian to be quite unique and interesting I find it wanting in a group situation, and feel it could be bettered by adding a stacking buff to card usage (similar to warriors and certain abilities they use while in defiance) that would increase healing potency/mana refresh rate/card potency and maybe even tie it in with the sects, so as to the card usage buff increased, so too does the shield strength in nocturnal, or the regen length or potency in diurnal.
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    Last edited by Ariel_Valmont; 08-02-2015 at 05:07 AM.

  8. #148
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Constructive criticism doesn't need to incorporate apologetic statements such as "I really love X, but Y." Constructive criticism is intended to be helpful by pointing out areas needing improvement.

    Constructive criticism can also be blatant; sugar-coating is not required, especially since discussing AST's shortcoming in gameplay and suggesting improvement is not the same as bashing the designers and artists who made the Job. The true insult would be not caring enough to share candid feedback.
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  9. #149
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I just did Tam Tara hard mode for the first time and on the final Boss the tank pulled too fast because he was being a jerk so 1 DPS got locked out. I healed the entire fight with ease and no MP issues even though most of the glyphs got activated.

    I love Astrologian!!!!
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  10. #150
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Sadly, after playing ASTRO for a bit (granted still level 51) - I have to agree more with the negative threads. If this job is a healer who can buff the party, as its "niche" - then AST should have more control on their buffs, and the buffs need BIGGER potency. Otherwise, if the buffs are just "nice things" to have, to add some variety, but provide only minor bonuses that is so minuscule to matter.... then for the love of GOD.... Fix our healing capabilities, and our shield, and our MP cost to be on par with the other 2 healers. I feel that the developer only play AST to level 50, the abilities we have at 50 is AMAZING!! but past that to level 60, it become very obvious, this one healer is the worst of the three with no way to recover when "shit hit the fans" and you gotta babysit a bunch of DPS "too dumb to function and keep getting hit by AOE".
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