The positive Astrologian thread!

[Parawill]

I didn't take this one, but it was a winner on reddit's screenshot contest! I thought it was pretty awesome :-)

Entitled: "The party's Astrologian casts Collective Unconscious" (Congrats, /u/ComradeShiny)

And this one is simply gorgeous (nor did I take this one >.< I'll more some...day...this weekend?)

Entitled: "Healing in the Great Gubal Library" by /u/Dangoke

(Thank you by the way ^-^ It was my first Dusk vigil run too)

[Luvbunny]

ASTRO is amazing job - it is by far the hardest healer job to master because there are so many random and quick decision thinking you must do. Hence you see so many complaints because this is not a straight up pick and play healer like WHM. My Astro is not yet 50, but I can contrast and compare the bad astro and a good astro when I play as tank on lower level dungeons. Astro tools below level 50 is extremely OVERPOWERED for a healer, but you can clearly see the shitty Astro overwhelmed itself with the myriad quick thinking they have to do on lower level dungeons. Stone Vigil and Dzaemel Darkhold is a good example. I am not surprised the SE team is taking a slow approach to fix this job, since on a seasoned player's hand, ASTRO is totally fine, and should the luck is on your card's draw, the benefits can be quite nice.

[Arragomis]

Agree Coralie 100%

[Vlady]

I love this thread. Peaceful tranquility. I love my detractors even on this thread. Love you guys!!!

[TatoRazzino]

All the first week savage clears with Astrologians are there to prove the job is fine if played well. People are just bad and need some carries.

[Vihalo]

All the first week savage clears with Astrologians are there to prove the job is fine if played well.

It just proves that if you have an Astrologian in the party the first two bosses can be healed, it doesn't prove that AST is on paar with WHM and SCH in progress raiding.
It doesn't prove that the (weak and RNG) buffs of AST justify the lack of healing cooldowns.

When you progress a boss you don't need RNG buffs with a little mana buff or a little bit more tp, or 1,X% more raiddamage on a RNG basis that the cards provide. You need consistency. You need reliable heal cooldowns, because you do trial and error with a boss because things will always go wrong on your first boss try's. You need enough healing power to try as long as possible to practice after a boss pull before the wipe. You need an off healer that can provide dps safely, because you know you have the heal cooldowns, when something goes wrong, to safe the damage dealer fastly after he stood in the fire. AST simply does not provide this kind of healing cd's.

How many AST's where brought on the world first kills on Alexander Savage 1,2,3? I saw none. Everything was WHM and SCH. AST just isn't played on a high player level, and it's that way for a reason.
In a Boss try where everything goes right, AST might be decent. But other than that.. WHM and SCH are just the better option for progress raiding. At the moment AST is just a gimmick healer.

[TatoRazzino]

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The reason why people are not bringing Astrologians to high end progression groups is that it requires a learning curve to play the job on raids, since there's no dummy you can practice healing checks on. People don't want to learn both the fight and the new strategy that a new healing job requires. That takes time and people who want World 1st want to do it as fast as they can, so they're sticking to the old meta. That doesn't mean that AST is not as good as the others, it means it's different and that it was not meant to replace the old healing strategy, but to create new ones. This should be obvious, but players are showing that they can't understand the basics about FF XIV gameplay. The bitching about cards or cooldowns shows that. If you can't play ir right and progress with it, it means you need to get good. If you're struggling, you suck. Don't blame the job, blame yourself.

[Vihalo]

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The thing is: The basic healing tools of Astrologian are basically just carbon coby's of Whitemage 2.0. with very few minor changes, so there is not much new to learn. The card system is not that complicated. Astrologian is not a magical box you open with a hidden key and suddenly you become good.

Top guilds are not so stupid that they have to learn this in months and months of time. If Astrologian had something to offer that is desireable to bring AST to progress they would take AST with them. They know the game very well, that is why they are on top.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I love AST in Frontlines. I was inspired by that YouTube video I posted, and so I opted to trying. Sooo much fun in Nocturnal in PVP.

The other night I had a SMN, NIN and a WAR on me, and they couldn't kill me. I even managed to stop and /laugh at the SMN and still got away from all three of them after they chased me for a good 3 minutes trying to kill me.

[Dante_V]

We currently are raiding savage with Ast and I am more than happy to have them in my group. I have much love for Ast.