Skill Trees

[uryu17]

Party finder would like to have words
No Ilvl:xxx? Kick/Can't join
Fail once? Kick
First time exp bonus? Kick/Disband
Wiped? Disband

In 2.0 get DF Ifirit HM/EX No caster? Disband/Bail

So you tell me again how people wont force people into doing something a certain way.
And that is without touching on in depth the "optimum setup/rotation" guides that people will be expected to follow to do any serious content.

Are you trying to help my argument? This is the perfect example of why we could use skill trees. Also if someone doesn't want you in their group do to you not being able to do your job. That is not the rotation fault it's yours. You don't have to use someone rotation to complete content. Even though the rotations you can use are limited. That's SE fault thus the reason why I'm propsing the idea of using Skill trees to give us more freedom.

[Madsamurai]

I think you are paranoid or simply don't like to put in the time and effort to spec into a skill tree. Not once have I ever been told in any game that has a skill tree. "Oh you have to have this spec In order to join the party." Stop making stuff up. I think you bring this up, do to the rotation currently in the game.

I think you are ignorant or clearly uninformed of how MMOs work these days. Sure there are lots of other games with the skill tree system but in an MMO environment it is nothing more than creating a layer of make belief for players to think that theres variety for them to choose on how they want to play.

[uryu17]

I think you are ignorant or clearly uninformed of how MMOs work these days. Sure there are lots of other games with the skill tree system but in an MMO environment it is nothing more than creating a layer of make belief for players to think that theres variety for them to choose on how they want to play.

So let me get this right dear sir. So if I'm playing STWOR and I spec my sorcerer for healing instead of dps. The healing that I'm doing is an illusion. Well I guess you have proven your point. that really did make since... Could you please post a susseful modern MMO without skill trees? Ty man. FYI I rather be fooled into believing that I'm healing using that healer spec vs not having the option. Cough cough what you said was ridiculous to me<--- In case your giant brain was not able to fathom the sarcasm. ������ ty for stating your opinion I appreciate it.sorcerer
Btw when did I state anything about modern MMOs (Everquest 2,wow, stor,blade and successful games) . These game implemented the skill tree correctly. If SE implements it correctly there should be no problem. Their way does not have to be like the modern Games you play or the ones I mention.

[PotatoWafflez]

So let me get this right dear sir. So if I'm playing STWOR and I spec my sorcerer for healing instead of dps. The healing that I'm doing is an illusion. Well I guess you have proven your point. that really did make since... Could you please post a susseful modern MMO without skill trees? Ty man. FYI I rather be fooled into believing that I'm healing using that healer spec vs not having the option. Cough cough what you said was ridiculous to me<--- I case your giant brain was not able to fathom the sarcasm. ������

Specs are not the same as skill trees.
All you are doing is choosing a class. You Might thing you are playing a Sorcerer-Healer But actually you are playing Healer y that is attached to the same base as DPS x and z. You can't use your DPS rotation in your healing spec and vice versa so it's not what you are actually asking for here at all and if you are well guess what its already in the game it just isn't in a sub menu and you literally change your job to healer y without also being stuck only being able to choose DPS x and z you can also switch to tanks a, b or c or any of the other "specs/classes" in the game at any time with no strings attached other than unlocking and leveling/gearing them.

[Darc18]

That's exactly what I've been told.
If talents or skill trees are implemented most would just choose the same build for maximized results

[Assirra]

I think you are paranoid or simply don't like to put in the time and effort to spec into a skill tree. Not once have I ever been told in any game that has a skill tree. "Oh you have to have this spec In order to join the party." Stop making stuff up. I think you bring this up, do to the rotation currently in the game.

You must not have played WoW in vanilla then.

Druid = healer or gtfo
paladin= healer or gtfo
priest= holy or gtfo
warrior= tank or gtfo

And no, don't pull the "but that is WoW" card, it happens in almost every mmo with something like skill trees/talents.

[uryu17]

Example let's say what you say is true. There is one rotation and if we don't use it we can't complete the content. Well if we have more option we don't have to follow the same rotation and still meet the end goal using different tools and or skills vs the same rotation that everyone else is using all the time. All I'm saying is I'm tried of figuring out a rotation only to hope online and see someone else came to the same conclustion. I want to be so what unique...

[uryu17]

I see what your saying, but having the classes on one character does not really matter at all man. It's a QOL and thing. Yeah you have all the classes on one character, so what? You still have to level them and thier still different classes. The cross class is not very customizable its a you take what you can get and most of the skill are useless for your class.why give me a skill you know I would never use? There controlling my ever decision.I love oils like a lil more freedom. Also I have said hah it does not have to be a skill tree I just want more options you know.

[Sekdatend]

And so what if people get cookie cutter builds or even revert back to vanilla WoW where each class could only do 1 thing. We don't have any choice as it stands and I would rather have the illusion of choice and tell the elitist to go away then be forced to continue playing the same way from 2.0. I don't think it even needs to be "Skill trees". It could be the option to remove half of the redundant traits we have now and make those choices in your play style.

[Savagelf]

he immigrant for world of Warcraft it seem. he caught the make this game more like wow bug sad isn't it. why we need no skill tree is fact it alway seem a small group player feel one skill tree is to uber then another skill tree