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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    In no other mmo does anyone ever say "watch a video" in regards to running dungeons/raids. Why is that so common here?
    Because this game is at the annoying balance of needing skill but not enough walling for the better players to need to assist the non- privileged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder View Post
    Because this game is at the annoying balance of needing skill but not enough walling for the better players to need to assist the non- privileged.
    But even in the other games that I've come from. The better players still gave a run down of each boss. I can understand reading a guide on some hardcore 24+ player raid, but let's be honest FFXIV will never have anything that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    In no other mmo does anyone ever say "watch a video" in regards to running dungeons/raids. Why is that so common here?
    Because people want to farm tomes and gears as fast as possible and not waste time.
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    Well it is a multiplayer game and you aren't playing by yourself. You say you are new and want an explanation on the fight from the people who beat it before. The thing is you could get that info yourself by watching a video or reading a guide. If you wanted the most smoothest run possible then you should of just watched a video or read a guide instead of relying on people to tell you what to do there are a lot of people who beat stuff before that don't want to take the time to explain every little thing.
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    By other MMORPG do you mean Wow, Tera, Swtor, FFXI. Then yes its common practice, people where making and using guides for fights long before A realm reborn

    never mind the MMORPG there are guides for normal many genre of games PC and console, they are just not optional because you are the only one playing, in most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shape View Post
    By other MMORPG do you mean Wow, Tera, Swtor, FFXI. Then yes its common practice, people where making and using guides for fights long before A realm reborn

    never mind the MMORPG there are guides for normal many genre of games PC and console, they are just not optional because you are the only one playing, in most cases.
    Making and using guides is not the same as saying "Go watch a video" for every dungeon in game. People say "Go watch a video" for completely irrelevant/easy/mid level dungeons. Again if it was some super hard raid I can understand reading up on a guide. Players that actually want to progress should do that but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Making and using guides is not the same as saying "Go watch a video" for every dungeon in game. People say "Go watch a video" for completely irrelevant/easy/mid level dungeons. Again if it was some super hard raid I can understand reading up on a guide. Players that actually want to progress should do that but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
    Except nobody is saying 'Watch a video for every fight'. What they are saying is: If you don't want to go in blind, read a guide/watch a video don't put that on other people. Or, at the very least, don't complain if other people don't want to explain mechanics/don't explain them well enough. If you DO want to go in blind then do that. It's fine.

    Literally no one in this thread has suggested going in blind is bad or that you ALWAYS have to watch a video. Just that if you don't like going in blind that's on you, not the 3-7 other random people DF happens to drop on you (who might not even know the fight, either--or at least not well enough to reliably explain it, given that DF gives priority to newbies and the content is still pretty new).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylo View Post
    Except nobody is saying 'Watch a video for every fight'. What they are saying is: If you don't want to go in blind, read a guide/watch a video don't put that on other people. Or, at the very least, don't complain if other people don't want to explain mechanics/don't explain them well enough. If you DO want to go in blind then do that. It's fine.

    Literally no one in this thread has suggested going in blind is bad or that you ALWAYS have to watch a video. Just that if you don't like going in blind that's on you, not the 3-7 other random people DF happens to drop on you (who might not even know the fight, either--or at least not well enough to reliably explain it, given that DF gives priority to newbies and the content is still pretty new).
    You haven't been in the runs I've been in. The only instances I've entered where no one said that were the first 2 dungeons. I never said anyone in this particular thread said it was bad, my question just general. I'm not saying people should expect people to explain things to them. But my question is why don't they? This is usual mmo rules in majority of ever other mmo it just seems strange in an easy mmo with very few mechanics people would act this way.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Because people want to farm tomes and gears as fast as possible and not waste time.
    People farm dungeons in almost every mmo. They usually rush and if a new person joins they explain what's going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    This is usual mmo rules in majority of ever other mmo

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    Not in other MMOs I've played. Including SWTOR. Most people in SWTOR would go "lolscrub get out" and kick a newbie without a second thought. And they wouldn't get in trouble because the GMs there don't care. FF14 is one of the most friendliest MMOs I've played, probably because you can actually get in trouble for being a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    But my question is why don't they?
    1. Because they're tired of explaining things
    2. Because they're still fairly new to the fight and don't have a solid grasp of the mechanics themselves
    3. Because they don't know the mechanics for the role that is asking for explanations
    4. Because they play on a console and don't have a keyboard to type with
    5. Because English isn't their first language
    6. Because they aren't good at explaining mechanics
    7. Because they just plain don't feel like it

    There are lots of reasons why someone can't/won't give explanations of mechanics.
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