I seriously wish this game had PvP

[SovereignAegis]

Like accessible PvP. I don't know if I am able to list off other games here or not (Different game forums have different policies), but fact is I have a huge breadth of mmo background and PvP has almost always been my thing. It's pretty staple and a lot of people LOVE it.

However in this game PvP seems incredibly downplayed if not outright inaccessible. With the numerous barriers around PvP (such as GC lock) it makes it impossible to be very active in PvP. It is so incredibly imbalanced that it is obvious upon trying to queue, let alone the fact you rarely see anyone waltzing around in PvP gear.

I really wish that with the expansion (HW) that the PvP was separated from GC and made more accessible. Like DF and premade parties can queue and participate.... and ISOLATED from GC decisions.

"But that would never work" Why wouldn't it? I won't list names but a particular insanely popular MOBA game doesn't restrict you to one particular team based upon choice. You go either side randomly. This style of team-formation hasn't proven to be a failure whatsoever.

"But it doesn't work with the story" is an argument I see.

Alright, I agree. But what would you rather... an inaccessible unusable mode that is utterly and bewilderingly pointless to have implemented cause no one can use it... OR a mode that is easily accessible and constantly used? I agree story driven nature of FF14 is awesome and I love it, but we need to realize that functionality for what a huge portion of players consider critical content is... critical.

At present PvP is beyond the majority of player's reach.

[UBERHAXED]

Team deathmatch (I think it's just called the wolves den) is 4v4 deathmatch with no restrictions. It was also the first PvP mode released.

[Teslo]

It's my personal opinion that the people who LOVE PvP are the very vocal minority, getting more attention because they make the most noise despite their smaller numbers. I used to PvP, played on PvP servers, and I was good at it. But I would much rather have nothing to do with it now. The fact that there are mounts gated behind PvP content annoys the holy hell out of me, and I think the PvP armor looks stupid. Any time I see someone and think to myself, "What in the world is that horrible looking gear!?" I then examine the player and, oh look... It's the PvP set. Again, my opinion, but I think PvP has no place in FFXIV. They put it in, and I didn't say anything because there's certainly a market for it, but I think the fact that you have such low queue rates is pretty indicative of the fact that it's just not as popular as the hardcore PvPers like to make it out as. Not just the nation system holding people back (Which I'm sure also contributes, but I'm willing to bet it's not as much)

[Akiza]

Like accessible PvP. I don't know if I am able to list off other games here or not (Different game forums have different policies), but fact is I have a huge breadth of mmo background and PvP has almost always been my thing. It's pretty staple and a lot of people LOVE it.

However in this game PvP seems incredibly downplayed if not outright inaccessible. With the numerous barriers around PvP (such as GC lock) it makes it impossible to be very active in PvP. It is so incredibly imbalanced that it is obvious upon trying to queue, let alone the fact you rarely see anyone waltzing around in PvP gear. I really wish that with the expansion (HW) that the PvP was separated from GC and made more accessible. Like DF and premade parties can queue and participate.... and ISOLATED from GC decisions.

"But that would never work" Why wouldn't it? I won't list names but a particular insanely popular MOBA game doesn't restrict you to one particular team based upon choice. You go either side randomly. This style of team-formation hasn't proven to be a failure whatsoever.

"But it doesn't work with the story" is an argument I see.

Alright, I agree. But what would you rather... an inaccessible unusable mode that is utterly and bewilderingly pointless to have implemented cause no one can use it... OR a mode that is easily accessible and constantly used? I agree story driven nature of FF14 is awesome and I love it, but we need to realize that functionality for what a huge portion of players consider critical content is... critical.

At present PvP is beyond the majority of player's reach.

Technically removing PvP form GC's will work with the story since player characters are know as adventures and at the end of the day we fight Hydaelyn not Eorzea. SE can have us fight for the adventure guild storywise and randomly separate us into teams.

[Gilraen]

At present PvP is beyond the majority of player's reach.

I believe you mean random PvP is beyond reach... which the majority of us is GLAD for. This game uses structured PvP and justifies it with lore. I think you're looking for a different game. This is a Japanese MMO, and a Final Fantasy besides. Story is king, everyone playable is a hero and the big bads are always defeated (eventually). This is what the majority of players are here for. If you want the kind of PvP where noone is being held to the mantle of hero then mayhaps you should play a different game.

[Colorful]

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People who love high end raiding are the minority too, no? Just because it has a minor player base doesn't mean it shouldn't be catered to, especially since simple things can be done to make it infinitely better such as removing GC restrictions. There's a reason it's such a minor thing in FFXIV, and that's due to the devs pretty much neglecting to fix any of the issues. Compare it to WoW's PvP community which is so much larger, and if they ever hope to win that playerbase (and considering their love for money, they will) they should work to make PvP in this game better. This is coming from someone who only ever stepped into PvP for the cool gear.

[Dererk]

Here's an idea how about we turn frontlines and the new big pvp area into open world pvp areas it can have pve stuff to do in it to get people there and people will be able to pvp there too.

But in my opinion I kinda hate pvp its too much running and gunning.

[CrimsonThunder]

A free duel system would be fun please for the love of god no open PK system. As if the high end players need any more game control as it is.

[StrejdaTom]

I believe that revamp of PvP would bring more players to this game.
The frontlines aren't that bad. But they could definitely use a few more mechanics + no GC restrictions.

[Kiara1]

The problem is. With our clunky 2 hour long gcd its impossible for them to make pvp fun.
And weird "must face target" rule for caster. Run through or circle a blm or smn and they will have a hard time dealing damage.