Strength Tanks and You.

[Gramul]

I think there's too much back and white reasoning going on.
There's no one way to play your role, but there's nothing wrong with playing it to it's base design.

Like I said earlier, just be aware that parties with strangers might not be prepared to deal with less vitality, and that could end up causing more trouble than you're try to avoid.

[Kerrigen]

Tanks who know what they're doing going part of full STR is fine, I absolutely don't care and even encourage. Tanks who think they're good and just follow what's hot on Reddit while having no idea what proper mitigation is, or just don't feel comfortable enough? Yeah, keep the extra HP cushion. No shame doing that.

The issue isn't the STR vs VIT nonsense debate, it's people doing dumb things.

[Cinicus]

The real problem is no role diversity allowed so when people try to "customize" the role they are playing it has negative effects as the game isnt made to support them.

[pouncing]

lol so after deleting my previous post because i didnt want to put my hand in here it is.

There is a time and a place for full strength accessories, but there is also a time and place for full vitality accessories.

This all depends on the encounter, the skill level of the tank, the skill level of the healer, how hard the tank buster hits, how often the tank buster hits, how fast hard hits come out, does you DPS need the little extra push to skip a phase, can the content be done comfortably with CD's in full strength, Is full Vit a real benefit here? These are questions that have an answer both ways it all Depends on the SITUATION!!!!

[Khemorex]

Tanks who know what they're doing going part of full STR is fine, I absolutely don't care and even encourage. Tanks who think they're good and just follow what's hot on Reddit while having no idea what proper mitigation is, or just don't feel comfortable enough? Yeah, keep the extra HP cushion. No shame doing that.

The issue isn't the STR vs VIT nonsense debate, it's people doing dumb things.

u seem to forget that theres also 2 dps in the group , wich might take dmg from aoes or are forced to stand in front of the mob , because of aoes or gas bombs or whatever , if the dps dies coz i have to heal the tank at the same moment , then it just slows down all of the stuff. So healers also have to make up for that and having some extra hp helps

everytime i go to the aery 1 of the dps is diying because the other dps forgot to dmg the prison , and no it dosnt help having a str tank there sorry , its just annoying as hel

[Nektulos-Tuor]

THE SOLUTION!

Add 65% of main stat's in Vitality to Non-Tank Jewelry.
Add 65% of main stat's in Strength to Tank Jewelry.

If main stat is 40 strength, add 26 vitality.
If main stat is 40 vitality, add 26 strength.

[Kerrigen]

u seem to forget that theres also 2 dps in the group , wich might take dmg from aoes or are forced to stand in front of the mob , because of aoes or gas bombs or whatever , if the dps dies coz i have to heal the tank at the same moment , then it just slows down all of the stuff. So healers also have to make up for that and having some extra hp helps

everytime i go to the aery 1 of the dps is diying because the other dps forgot to dmg the prison , and no it dosnt help having a str tank there sorry , its just annoying as hel

I'm a healer main, and have healed every piece of content in the game. People making constant mistakes are just that: people making mistakes. Yeah you're right, people making mistakes absolutely make things harder to impossible to heal through, there's absolutely no debate there. Nothing to do with STR vs VIT on tanks there though.

[Hundred]

THE SOLUTION!

Add 65% of main stat's in Vitality to Non-Tank Jewelry.
Add 65% of main stat's in Strength to Tank Jewelry.

If main stat is 40 strength, add 26 vitality.
If main stat is 40 vitality, add 26 strength.

All you did is make str gear more appealing then it currently is.

[Alexika]

Tanking in all STR accessories and Deliverance in A4 now. No problems.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

All you did is make str gear more appealing then it currently is.

Then we need to redo parry to be a useful stat. Right now it is not.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-we-change-it

See here! =)


One reason I take strength jewelry over vitality is all I see on vitality gear is:

40 Vitality
28 Useless
14 crap

When I see Strength I see.

40 Better Damage, less time in fights. Better aggro!
28 Critical Rate, which also helps aggro.
14 Accuracy, very nice!