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    Nakedyam Freeshirts
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    Make the leveling roulette actual be used for leveling.

    My typical leveling day: I want to level some jobs so I log in and do my daily roulettes, for variety, and then get back to spamming the highest level dungeon until I level or log off.

    IMO, the leveling roulette is just being used once a day for the comparable exp and the variety. This just doesn't make sense when you think about its name and what it is meant to be used for. It is meant to get players back in to lower level dungeons to alleviate the stress of queue times. Plus, its name is "Leveling." Why not make this the clear path to take for players who want to level in dungeons?
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    Changes that I think should be made to the leveling roulette:
    1. Increase the exp gained from completing the dungeon to be higher than running a max level dungeon.
    2. The daily completion bonus you get should be removed with a 3 times a day, one each run, you get gear based on your class/level. Example, lvl57 healer using the roulette 4 times in a row. He/she will get Vault healing gear for the first 3 runs.
    Benefits:
    1. Increasing the population for the leveling roulette to help alleviate queue times.
    2. Actually making the "Leveling" roulette be used for leveling and not just once a day.
    3. Still be able to gear out your job in a timely manner.
    4. Makes it so you aren't spamming the same dungeon every 2 levels, adds variety.
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    Not sure what the daily roulette limit is even about. For instance, why couldn't we just queue up in leveling roulette and get the bonus each time? Like without it being once a day? What would be detrimental about it? People would be leveling too fast? People would farm their eso too fast? Well, people already do those things too fast anyway, and even if they do it that fast, who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
    Not sure what the daily roulette limit is even about. For instance, why couldn't we just queue up in leveling roulette and get the bonus each time? Like without it being once a day? What would be detrimental about it? People would be leveling too fast? People would farm their eso too fast? Well, people already do those things too fast anyway, and even if they do it that fast, who cares?
    Well, there's that bonus for constantly going as the same class. If the "Adventurer in need" is dps, you'll always keep getting the bonus until it change to a different role.
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Maybe cap the tomestone rewards (or whatever bonus there is) to be only once a day if ran on maximum level. But keep the comparable exp bonus on every run. That would have levelling folks actually running roulette which should even things out, and it still couldn't be OP for max level grind.
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    actually, levelling roulette is made so that you can help people in their levelling. Not to ease your levelling. That's why you get a substantial bonus in exp/gils/seals/tomes (?), because by doing this low level dungeon you'd be mostly wasting your time which could have been spent on real levelling (minus the will to help other people, but not enough people have that).

    I don't quite get why people still think that roulette is supposed to help you, but it's not. It's made to help others to get a group for whatever they queued for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    I don't quite get why people still think that roulette is supposed to help you, but it's not. It's made to help others to get a group for whatever they queued for.
    Don't you think having people queue for it more than once a day would be conductive to that purpose?

    Right now, it's pretty much a one-time thing. After that, you lose out on XP, gil and drops and thus just queue for your highest available dungeon. Wouldn't it be better if people were inclined to queue for it more often, as it means more fillers for the people who queue for something specific, for example for the MSQ or other reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Don't you think having people queue for it more than once a day would be conductive to that purpose?

    Right now, it's pretty much a one-time thing. After that, you lose out on XP, gil and drops and thus just queue for your highest available dungeon. Wouldn't it be better if people were inclined to queue for it more often, as it means more fillers for the people who queue for something specific, for example for the MSQ or other reasons?
    there are already more people queueing for the roulettes than people who really need the dungeons (proof is the amount of roulettes run who end up with 4/8 people in their roulette). Until the contrary happens, I don't see the roulette changing.

    Also, levelling roulette is a waste of xp in all cases except if you get a trial. I wouldn't do it for levelling purpose if I had not the hope to help a green leaf player every now and then.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Don't you think having people queue for it more than once a day would be conductive to that purpose?

    Right now, it's pretty much a one-time thing. After that, you lose out on XP, gil and drops and thus just queue for your highest available dungeon. Wouldn't it be better if people were inclined to queue for it more often, as it means more fillers for the people who queue for something specific, for example for the MSQ or other reasons?
    No, I don't think so. In my experience most DF groups have more high-level characters than low-levels, and often there is nobody who is entirely new to the duty.
    In other words, we already have enough people queueing that those who need it for the MSQ can get it done relatively quickly.

    If the daily bonus was available for many runs per day, then I am sure many players would just do the roulette over and over, and skip almost all the normal quests in the game. I suspect it would make the developers sad if nobody did the quests they have created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    If the daily bonus was available for many runs per day, then I am sure many players would just do the roulette over and over, and skip almost all the normal quests in the game. I
    It's not as if people don't already do this with FATEs.

    The only detriment to making roulette unlimited imo is that it allows people to dodge at-level dungeons they don't like. There's a pretty low risk of Qarn at lv35 if you've diluted the pool with a dozen other dungeons, but it's all worth the same xp, so w/e? It's your $14.99 a month, but eh. Would be nice if they did it like WoW so that you could do it up to 7 times a week with bonus - that way you could do it once a day or 7 times in a row if you wanted.
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