Guys, whats your tolerance level?

[Reneo]

I mean he placed eos on sic instead of obey and controlling the Eos' heal himself. >.> I mean it's fine for Eos to put on sic(below 50) but micro managing early is much better.

[randysquirrel]

Tolerance level starts high. If someone says they are new, no problem

As long as they keep trying, asking if they don't know something, or whatever, then my tolerance remains high, and i'll help as much as I can

It slowly goes down if they keep making the same mistakes.
And it very rapidly goes down (runs out immediately) if they start being rude, blaming others or talking sh!t

[Reneo]

I main healers in on every MMO or game that have healing in general.

So I decided to roll with my BRD with my husband who usually rolls as a dps. So we que up for Stone Vigil and we got a Drk and a SCH.

Scholar was prioritizing dpsing but not healing as the tank is always almost dead and my husband aggro off the tank.

He stood in front of the healer waiting for his heals but instead he let him die. >.>

Tank starts to say run to me if you aggro off (which he did) and the healer said he was too far away to heal (even though he was RIGHT in front of him).

Scholar proceeds to say that Tank>Dps. The tank agrees. This would make sense but the problem with his logic? Underhealing the tank and placing eos on sic.

I told him that as a healer your priority is to make sure everyone is alive, not just the tank.

Tank and healer tag team and called me stupid. Fired back that it isn't our fault you can't keep aggro and you refuse to heal.

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[Reivur]

I mean, if the rest of the story is true then yeah that sucks. But that first post is genuinely terrible advice that healers would learn to never heed. :/
Regen on a pull? I guess if you want to scatter everything on you and screw up any clump formation possible.

Spam Cure II? If you want to be out of mp in 30-40 seconds or less, though that accounts for one shroud. If pulls are so overzealous, or so frail that Cure II spam is required the dungeon is already a bust. The Cure II values cited are also completely normal, so I'm not sure why 800s is listed as a demerit. Are you positive you were popping cooldowns? Saying "I had defiance on" is not a cooldown, it means you have the base mitigation of a tank.

Saying you have Defiance on is very close to me saying I had Cleric stance off. Alright, I'm in the right mode. Am I using the correct tools in that mode?

[Leshpar]

I tolerate and in fact love working with new people. I do not tolerate bad people. This healer was bad. This healer was also new, but that doesn't make up for ignoring things and not trying their best.

[sirDarts]

My tolerance level is incredibly high. Just 2 days ago I was in a Longstop run that took 80 minutes.
As long as the new players are willing to learn, and don't repeat the same mistakes over and over again, I am willing to stay there, help them, and give tips and strats.
If someone dies the the exact same mechanic 3 times in a row, or just doesn't show any signs of getting better, and is not accepting help, I am voting kick or abandon as soon as I can.

[EA9Sol]

My tolerance can be very high when I first started. But, now? I will not suffer fool gladly. Those willing to learn will learn and those do not will not. I don't mind explaining to new people a hundred times over if it means they'll be one more good player out. I will not help out a overzealous nub who think they can whatever and not think there will be no consequences. That is why I fear to heal or tank in DF..... I'm afraid my tolerance levels are very low.... Twelve persevere me.

[sirDarts]

My tolerance can be very high when I first started. But, now? I will not suffer fool gladly. Those willing to learn will learn and those do not will not. I don't mind explaining to new people a hundred times over if it means they'll be one more good player out. I will not help out a overzealous nub who think they can whatever and not think there will be no consequences. That is why I fear to heal or tank in DF..... I'm afraid my tolerance levels are very low.... Twelve persevere me.

I'd say it's actually easier to deal with noobs as a healer. O.o
I have now started playing DPS, and when the tank or the healer are lacking, there is very little you can do. You can just push as much DPS as possible and hope the fights will end before the tank dies or the healer runs out of MP.
As a healer though, if the tank is lacking you can usually still keep everyone alive. And if the DPS is lacking while the tank is fine, you can just add your own DPS.

[Raim]

It sounds like you are very undergeared if the healer is spamming Cure I/II on you while also having Titan Egi hold an add for you isn't enough to survive with. You yourself said you were new to tanking yet you speak like you're an expert on the subject immediately. Maybe both you and the healer were undergeared. Also WHM is never supposed to open with Renew.

[Dracosavarian]

My tolerance level is usually exceptionally high. As a Tank you'd think I'd bail the first sign of things going south since there's that whole "Oh, yer a tank, just leave and Insta Queue again" Stereotype.


But I don't.


Things that really push me though:

1: Abusive behavior by players towards other players for no justifiable reason. Cursing, treating them as inferior, for whatever reason, no matter their reasoning, is one of the things that set me off the fastest. This I would say is my number one pet peeve.

2: DPS/Healer who think they are the tank/designated puller.

Seriously. Don't. Just don't. I've had so many scholars/Ninja/Rogue/Black Mage/insert job name here run up leagues ahead and either pull mobs by their mere presence, or intentionally pull and start fighting, then complain when when the mob has torn off half their face and is chewing on their ears like rawhide toys.

I had two ninja's in Amdapor Keep that were absolutely convinced recently that they could pull and tank the dungeon, and they repeatedly rushed ahead and frequently tried to pull hate and DPS. They even did it on the final boss before I could pull him to the corner, you know, away from the party so the tail swipe doesn't nail everyone in the face, and tried to DPS him in the middle of the room.

What's the saying? You can't fix that which doesn't want to be? Yeah...tried to save one of the ninjas from the statue morphing mobs as he ran up leagues ahead of me out of the blue and pulled them. News flash, if you do that, hate is already set on you, making it that much harder for the tank to pull it off as Enmity hasn't been set by the tank yet.

So, yeah. He died. Despite my trying to save him. Big shock.

Seriously. Let the tank pull.

3: Scholars or DPS who refuse to focus on your marked target and actively get into a hate competition with you. Then scream bloody murder when they are getting wailed on and their legs ripped off as a improvised weapon. Which the mob promptly uses to bludgeon them to death with.

Tam Tara Deepcroft is a prime example of this. Oi...Scholars. The insane, jerk ones. You and your Dots. You know the type. Just dotting it up freely and laughing all the while as the tank struggles with it's limited abilities to continue to keep hate despite the multiple bios and heavens knows what else you've stacked on the mob.

Have had so many scholars do that. DPS too, for that matter, who view it as a personal challenge to "Test" the tank, and even outright say they are doing so.

4: Bad healers who regen you up before a pull or other wtf actions and moments that makes you stare as they hit respawn and have to run back, all the while screaming at you that you aren't doing your job.

Those are my basic 4. I'm sure other examples come up...but yeah...