Guys, whats your tolerance level?

[nssixn6]

A week ago I decided to level a WAR(because Eorzea needs Tanks!) on a friend's server.
So I rolled a new alt character ($18.00 $€? Hahahaha good one!). I already have tons of experience healing(SCH 4 life) and dpsing, so I decided to give Tankery a shot.

Yesterday I DF'd into Stone Vigil.
Get a MCH, a SMN and a WHM.
New player alert.
I ask, "Who's new?"
WHM says(not party chat) I.
SMN is also fresh(only 2 runs under belt).
"WHM regen me, don't pull adds"

We charge in; no regen, I Overpower, we wipe.
On first group of mobs! Cure IIs were only 800.

[nssixn6]

"Sigh, SMN please Titan, and grab 1 mob to split damage"
SMN plays ball rest of run, but we wipe at least once more. (I'm constantly Convealencing, Foresighting, BBing and Second Winding CDs to make up for soft heals)
We inch worm all the way to Chudo Yudo.
I tell party to hold. I carefully explain the concept of unmarked AoEs.
"Healer, Focus target on CY, watch for swinge, stay by his side AT ALL TIMES!"
"Keep Regen on me every 30 secs plz, also Ensuna the burns plz"

The fight starts. No Ensuna's, no Regens, just a stream of Cure I's and Cure II's. In front of dragon.
We wipe.(because of course we did) Reset, next time, I go,"I wasn't kidding, when I said don't stand in front of dragon, please keep regen up, and stop spamming weaksauce CureI's." This time, SMN was on ball, MCH has been on ball(he's always been last to die), WHM gets swinged twice and SMN tries to physick but can't sustain mp. We wipe.

"Sigh, SMN please Titan, and grab 1 mob to split damage"
SMN plays ball rest of run, but we wipe at least once more. (I'm constantly Convealencing, Foresighting, BBing and Second Winding CDs to make up for soft heals)
We inch worm all the way to Chudo Yudo.
I tell party to hold. I carefully explain the concept of unmarked AoEs.
"Healer, Focus target on CY, watch for swinge, stay by his side AT ALL TIMES!"
"Keep Regen on me every 30 secs plz, also Ensuna the burns plz"

The fight starts. No Ensuna's, no Regens, just a stream of Cure I's and Cure II's. In front of dragon.
We wipe.(because of course we did) Reset, next time, I go,"I wasn't kidding, when I said don't stand in front of dragon, please keep regen up, and stop spamming weaksauce CureI's." This time, SMN was on ball, MCH has been on ball(he's always been last to die), WHM gets swinged twice and SMN tries to physick but can't sustain mp. We wipe.

[nssixn6]

This continues for EIGHT MOTHER OF GOD D- WHAT THE H- TIMES!
Everytime I re-explain the mechanics and tell healer how to not F-up(hint: stay away from swinge-ing side of dragon)
I stay out of respect for the trooper SMN(was QC rez on dead healer), the MCH makes some BS up and RQs.
Poor SMN asks if MCH had something to do. I explain what a rage quit is.

Eventually healer quits, a real healer joins, and we slam dunk rest of run, with only 30 seconds left to spare on clock.

TL;DR version: What's your tolerance for new players who REFUSE to learn mechanics?

[RyuRoots]

You can edit your posts to bypass the character limit so you don't have to double or triple post.

But yeah, sometimes players just...WILL NOT get something no matter how many times or how nicely it's explained. Friend had an Ifrit story mode run that I had the pleasure of watching in his room. He was a ninja doing a low lvl roulette. Their Gladiator wouldn't use Savage Blade, their Conjurer wouldn't dodge a single Eruption, and their Thaumaturge wouldn't target the Nail. They wiped five or six times before my friend just threw up his hands and bailed.

I seriously don't know how these kinds of things happen.

[justinjarjar]

Would have left long ago, in a dung more than 3 wipes on a boss is too many. I am not insane (doing the same thing and expecting different results). I have a little more on primal runs like 5 wipes tops (and only if i see progress). Glad you have the patience I do not and would rather pet my cat more then waste my time on someone who does not want to learn to play.

[Mhikail]

3rd times the charm, naybe 4 if we were cuttin' it close on try 3...
If that ain't the charm, I'm out.
Sorry, we can't waste days because people can't get it together.

[Adire]

My tolerance of newbs who refuse to listen to you is 0.

My tolerance for honest mistakes from newbs who listen is over 9000.

[Ceodore]

Here's the extent of my tolerance...

[Kikoten]

It depends on the day for me. My tolerance level, on most days, is moderate to high. But on certain days, or when certain... things... happen, my tolerance level goes dooooowwwwwn. At its worst, I'll speak up in a not-so-nice way and get really confrontational. Thankfully, that only happens once in a blue moon, or almost never.

If we're talking about the peeves which break our tolerance like a twig, I'd have to say that one of my number one peeves are, in a duty run, the party initiating a vote to kick someone for the wrong reason, or simply because the vote initiator is pissy. I will ALWAYS get confrontational over that one.

EDIT: Example: I was in a Library run the other day, just a-healing it up as usual, when, at the last boss, we wipe. The wipe is my fault, because I misadventured my way into an AoE and DIED. Simple as that.

Well.

The leader tries to kick the bard. Why? "DPS too low." But the vote happened after the wipe, and if anybody should've been getting kicked, it was me. I know that sounds weird, but bear with me. The boss was at about 5% when we died. The Bard, possibly taking offense, says, "I have to leave anyway," and leaves on her own.

I proceed to chew out the person who initiated the vote. Eventually another DPS joins and we finish, no quicker than we would have originally, because I died the first time.

EDIT 2: I was pissed about the initiator trying to kick the bard because it was the bard's first time through the Library. I just wanted to help somebody advance their MSQ, but SOMEBODY in the group had to be a jack-a-bitch.

[Sakuraluna]

I think there'd have eventually been a kick. No sense in wiping over and over to the same person blatantly ignoring fight mechanics.