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    Player
    seida's Avatar
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Well, we don't know if it will be unfair YET because we don't know exactly how it will work.

    On the other hand, the housing system is currently an unfair mess so it does seem likely.

    Considering the number of players per server housing in insanely limited. I really do think they need to introduce losing your house if you don't log in for x months, even if it's as long as a year. If you care that much about it, you can log in at least once to save it.

    I hope they are thinking more carefully about Ishgard housing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    So...adding an entire new housing area with all new wards...ISN'T fixing the housing shortage?
    Um, unless they do something massively drastic, it obviously WON'T fix the housing shortage, especially on decently populated servers. The number of players who want a house compared to the number of houses they will add.... you really think those numbers will be even?
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    If someone couldn't afford a house before when they were available, but can now, well so can everyone. That is just because of the flood of gil into the market now because of the expansion. Gil comes from the quests, vendoring items to NPCs, enemy drops, etc.

    So yea, if you think you suddenly got rich from doing almost nothing...so did everyone. You are gonna have to fight everyone and their Fat Cat for a house in Ishgard... I really think those houses should be incredibly expensive. We need more gil sinks. There is kind of too much gil in circulation atm.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 07-18-2015 at 01:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    If someone couldn't afford a house before when they were available, but can now, well so can everyone. That is just because of the flood of gil into the market now because of the expansion. Gil comes from the quests, vendoring items to NPCs, enemy drops, etc.

    So yea, if you think you suddenly got rich from doing almost nothing...so did everyone. You are gonna have to fight everyone and their Fat Cat for a house in Ishgard... I really think those houses should be incredibly expensive. We need more gil sinks. There is kind of too much gil in circulation atm.
    Having a short supply on housing making me trade XX milion gil from myself to Mr Guy with four alts that have houses isn't fixing the gil inflation either.

    Unlimited instanced housing with decent sized payments and weekly/monthly upkeep fees on the other hand will, because the gil is going to an NPC and not another player.
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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
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    it is not the issue of Gil that is affecting Housing system. It is the lack of Housing to meet the demand of the player base.

    Some players are even creating alt characters to buy up any new house wards SE releases into the game so they can sell the wards for higher price than the original cost and if players do not buy the housing from them these player leave the housing area alone for a long time never to be used until they can find a player that would pay 2 times, 3 times, or 4 times the amount of price they paid for the House Ward as their means to make Gil.

    Even after they sold that house these players would continue to use their alts to buy up any new House Wards to repeat the same process again.

    There is currently no safety measures to prevent players from buy up new Housing Wards on alts and selling it for a greater amount of prices to other players.

    As of now the Housing system is a game of real estate where rich players with countless multiple alt characters buy up Housing Wards with those alts to sell to other players for a higher price than the original price.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-18-2015 at 02:56 PM.

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    Eldon Pierce
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Some players are even creating alt characters to buy up any new house wards SE releases into the game so they can sell the wards for higher price than the original cost and if players do not buy the housing from them these player leave the housing area alone for a long time never to be used until they can find a player that would pay 2 times, 3 times, or 4 times the amount of price they paid for the House Ward as their means to make Gil.

    Even after they sold that house these players would continue to use their alts to buy up any new House Wards to repeat the same process again.

    There is currently no safety measures to prevent players from buy up new Housing Wards on alts and selling it for a greater amount of prices to other players.
    That said, limiting the houses to one per account I doubt will fix the shortage. Scrapers can't the only cause of the problem. The number of players that want a house greatly out number the number of plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    That said, limiting the houses to one per account I doubt will fix the shortage. Scrapers can't the only cause of the problem. The number of players that want a house greatly out number the number of plots.
    While it won't solve the shortage it will certainly opening up more plots to be used and prevent rich players that already have their own Personal House from trying to take other House Wards from other players that don't have a Personal House.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-18-2015 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    While it won't solve the shortage it will certainly opening up more plots to be used and prevent rich players that already have their own Personal House from trying to take other House Wards from other players that don't have a Personal House.
    It's still pretty much just kicking the can down the road though.

    If they fix the shortage (instanced housing?) then all the restrictions won't be necessary.
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Getting the money to buy a small house has never been a significant accomplishment. Price is not the issue driving the anger surrounding the housing system.
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    Shuu Naranol
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    I'm not entirely sure what exactly is being referred to as "inconvenience" there, tbh.

    If it's the thing about sharing your personal house with friends/LS/FC/whatnot... I'm sorry, but I do not think that should be a priority over the fact that about 99% of the players don't even have a shot at housing at all, individual or FC. (Try checking the Community Wall on the Lodestone and see how many new FCs are still being created so often.)

    If it's the actual lack of availability of housing as a whole feature for almost the entire playerbase... I find it a little bit offensive to label it an "inconvenience", but hey, at least they're trying to fix it. Hopefully. (Sad thing is, as long as they only think in adding more and more wards, it will never become viable.)

    Like I said, no idea what's being referred to as "inconvenience". And that's kinda unfortunate.
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    /sigh ...

    They really need to fix this shortage and not just bandage it with a few more wards. The housing system has to scale.

    Get rid of the FC rooms and use the freed up resources to run an instanced house system.
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