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    Player
    PotatoTree's Avatar
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    I'm not going to read through 12 pages to see where we're at, but I hope the sentiment is to remove GC restrictions. The queue times will be ok the first few days of PvP after this weeks update, but the second one of the 3 GCs starts getting a win advantage (causing people to transfer over) or if PvP starts getting stale, then the queue times will be impossibly long just like right before 3.0.

    TLDR: Remove GC restrictions, solves queue times and GC imbalance.
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    I'm not going to read through 12 pages to see where we're at, but I hope the sentiment is to remove GC restrictions.
    I've read the 12 pages worth of posts and...it is. Only a few have spoken in defense of the GC restriction, where as the rest speak out against it.

    I even see some here that I vaguely recall having defended the GC restriction in earlier threads. People are just getting tired of this useless restriction.
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    Buff Archer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
    I've read the 12 pages worth of posts and...it is. Only a few have spoken in defense of the GC restriction, where as the rest speak out against it.

    I even see some here that I vaguely recall having defended the GC restriction in earlier threads. People are just getting tired of this useless restriction.
    If you could even call it a 'defense' because people's reasoning for keeping the GC restriction is so weak. My favorite one is the whole 'I'm not PVP'ing alongside people in ____ faction or ____ faction!' as if any of those people couldn't do a GC swap and be the same as them tomorrow... and that somehow would make them more or less of a worthy teammate?

    Being allied with people who chose the same GC at level 20 is not more important than my real world time... which amounts to an hour a half, with 10-15 min playing and 45 min waiting on it to start.
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
    I've read the 12 pages worth of posts and...it is. Only a few have spoken in defense of the GC restriction, where as the rest speak out against it.

    I even see some here that I vaguely recall having defended the GC restriction in earlier threads. People are just getting tired of this useless restriction.
    I've defended the GC restriction before, but not very adamantly. I did so under the pretense of story and thinking outside the box. It's fine that they want to follow the story and it's fine that they want to experiment with an immersive method involving it... at the time. The story, however, does not have any sort of pre-existing reason to have GCs rival each other after 3.0 MSQ. It also allows for them to do away with the GC queue requirement and allow for better queue times in testing out the removal of a rather unwanted limitation by the player base. This automatically eliminates my need to defend the upcoming PvP setup. Now, I suspect that they might be planning on adding it to the queue, of which it would make the GC requirements seem needed in order to do a PvP roulette. That isn't a very good reason to defend its existence, IMO, as it can always be changed (lore-wise) to be training exercise related with Teams 1-3. The only changes needed in that case are text/font/flag alterations.
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Surely the GC stuff can be client side or whatever, no idea on the technical aspect of it's got to be possible for me to see Immortal Flames flags while the guy next to me on my team sees Maelstrom flags.

    If they don't want to do that because it might be weird if people spoke to each other in character (that seems a peculiar consideration but stranger things have happened) just making it so ticking 'queue in progress' switches GC allegiance off. A sort of 'I don't care about lore I just want in' button.
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I haven't signed my name here so I'll throw myself on here too. I've mentioned my suggestions in another thread but I'll post them here for ease of access:

    - We'd like to play with our friends (FC or friends list), and
    - Swapping GCs is a long-term loss for short term satisfaction, and
    - A lot of work was invested in the PvP but the rewards feel underwhelming
    - We'd like 1vs1 PvP in open world just to encourage more interested participants
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    Fate Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    I haven't signed my name here so I'll throw myself on here too. I've mentioned my suggestions in another thread but I'll post them here for ease of access:

    - We'd like to play with our friends (FC or friends list), and
    - Swapping GCs is a long-term loss for short term satisfaction, and
    - A lot of work was invested in the PvP but the rewards feel underwhelming
    - We'd like 1vs1 PvP in open world just to encourage more interested participants
    1 vs 1 is not something that would be even close to be balance so seriously no need to invest any time in that
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayo View Post
    1 vs 1 is not something that would be even close to be balance so seriously no need to invest any time in that
    I agree, though I do think there should be a request duel option for people wanting to do that for fun. There should also be an option for each player to disable duel requests if they don't want random people duel requesting them.
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    Mattiux Black
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Signed.

    But please, add something as a reward to encourage people to explore the content.
    Even if you like the pvp the waiting time is a pain.
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    #signed

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