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    Ippiki's Avatar
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    4. Due to the above Abandon loss, you blow both Raw Intuition and Vengeance at the same time, disabling not only the ability to use them later to hasten Abandon generation, but also as defensive cooldowns.

    Why argue against a certain situation that anyone can access(40s pre pull) if you're going to cherrypick other situations(no pots, unaccounted Eye falloff, that one extra Fell Cleave, silly CD usage) that you just made up on the spot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    1. You apparently can't read potion descriptions[+20%, max 84], the max Str we can get right now without Gordian slaying is around 880-900, so +20% isn't too inaccurate. Opening rotations are tooled to interact with as many potency buffs as possible, forgetting something as powerful a potion can seriously skew numbers. Example, I get 2x Fell Cleave and Fracture in my XPot cycle, you do not get the Fracture. This discrepancy will increase the more common Draconian potions become.
    +20% Strength attribute is not +20% damage. In both examples there is no potion so numbers are comparable (versus comparing your numbers with potion to mine without)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    2. Your "other" rotation has Eye falling off after the third Fell Cleave, losing about 62 potency more, unknown amounts to the autoattack during as well.
    It's very close to falling off, sure. I almost always have SCH and the first thing they pop is the haste from Selene, so it's always close but doesn't fall off. Either way, swapping the 2 around your still going to get the same total at the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    3. You extended your rotation 1 GCD past mine, in order to fit your 4th Fell Cleave in(which you are several GCDs behind on, I wonder why) in order to pad your potency. Yet, despite all the errors, behind mine.
    Both rotations are the same number of actions. Obviously my 4th cleave is behind because it doesn't start pre-pull.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    4. Due to the above Abandon loss, you blow both Raw Intuition and Vengeance at the same time, disabling not only the ability to use them later to hasten Abandon generation, but also as defensive cooldowns.
    Are you thinking of this as a MT rotation? I don't pull in Deliverance. This is just for OT when I don't care about saving a defensive CD. Not really a lot of room for chastising since you're blowing one before the fight even starts >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    Why argue against a certain situation that anyone can access(40s pre pull) if you're going to cherrypick other situations(no pots, unaccounted Eye falloff, that one extra Fell Cleave, silly CD usage) that you just made up on the spot?
    I linked a thread that was made earlier then week that you couldn't even bother to look for to help answer your questions. It's not my rotation but what I started using because it makes more sense and the timing isn't as crucial, just start the fight as normal. Again, you said there was a huge difference, and my only purpose was to at least attempt to prove that there isn't a huge difference at all.
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 07-18-2015 at 07:14 AM.