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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    There has been some good discussion about using Infuriate at the end of the cycle instead of the beginning so that it lines up better in the long run with zerk and IR.
    Yea the other rotation of building 5 stacks first instead of the pre-pull/Infuriate deal seems to work much better. Plus don't have to kill a min waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Plus don't have to kill a min waiting.
    You need 40s for your optimal burst, it's no more than a ready check + 15s countdown. which is pretty standard for most groups.

    If you don't get to set up properly, then you're not going to deal anywhere close to as much damage as you could, so it's more of a group limitation than a rotational one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    You need 40s for your optimal burst, it's no more than a ready check + 15s countdown. which is pretty standard for most groups.

    If you don't get to set up properly, then you're not going to deal anywhere close to as much damage as you could, so it's more of a group limitation than a rotational one.
    Anywhere close? We are talking about 2-3 gcd delay. The damage is gonna happen either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoxastic View Post
    let the PLD/DRK OT
    A PLD can open in Sword Oath as MT if NIN gives them Silhouette, and neither class can come close to WAR's ridiculous burst currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    We are talking about 2-3 gcd delay.
    It takes, minimum, 8 GCDs to build full stacks unless you burn CDs, CDs that could be better used for pre pull extensions or actual DPS.
    Also, you assume that the fight is going to somehow give you back those GCDs, which doesn't happen, at least not until AST becomes Time Mage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    A PLD can open in Sword Oath as MT if NIN gives them Silhouette, and neither class can come close to WAR's ridiculous burst currently.


    It takes, minimum, 8 GCDs to build full stacks unless you burn CDs, CDs that could be better used for pre pull extensions or actual DPS.
    Also, you assume that the fight is going to somehow give you back those GCDs, which doesn't happen, at least not until AST becomes Time Mage
    Not assuming anything other than, at the end of the fight, 2-3 GCDs in the opening probably isn't even going to register a difference. You're kinda the one assuming it's not going to be "anywhere close"
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    2-3 GCDs in the opening probably isn't even going to register a difference.
    Then why are you posting in a thread about maximizing your GCDs in an opening rotation? It's right there in the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    Then why are you posting in a thread about maximizing your GCDs in an opening rotation? It's right there in the title.
    Check the math if you want, I just left off pots because it doesn't say anywhere it's a flat 20% increase.



    And, sorry about the name mix up, I thought you were IpKonfig not Ippiki

    "Other" is the rotation discussed here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-for-max-dps
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