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    Krixus Rayne
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    OH really? And please can u tell me who are u to say that it's like that? This skill AS AN EMERGENCY HEAL as it is now sucks . If it was not the only emergency heal it would be cool. But ryt now as the ONLY ONE it sucks.
    Nvm, go play a dps please.
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    Sera Vandis
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    Astrologian Lv 54
    Personally I don't have issue with essential dignity. I don't think changing this skill alone will fix the root of the complaint....that being some (I won't speak for all) AST's feel inferior when it comes to emergency healing bad situations.

    Speaking from the experiences I've had with SCH, AST at the same level is missing that safety net feeling. For example, as a SCH I could have 3 unused Aetherflow stacks, and the Aetherflow skill ready to roll meaning I could use Lustrate 6 times back to back if needed (this is on top of the faerie's own healing skills and your other heal/shield options). Whereas with an AST I've casted Benefic II, Aspected Benefic (regen), Aspected Helios (Regen), and now Essential Dignity only to watch the tank's HP bar continue to hover near death as I spam Benefic II until either regen wears off or Essential Dignity is off cooldown (all the while trying to fish for a Bole in between GCD's).

    I won't even mention the new ability added in Heavensward to refresh Aetherflow stacks. We can argue that a SCH will not always have this situation, but the fact is a SCH can easily create this situation if he/she wanted. I cannot speak for WHM, but at least with SCH vs AST the ability to handle, either prepared or unprepared, emergency situations is vastly different. It's not enough to just do the math and say it boils down to 1 lustrate every 20 seconds. While it may be mathematically accurate, it doesn't quite get the feel across since it's more like 6 lustrates in 17.5 seconds, then another 3 in 50 seconds. Please don't take this to mean i'm saying "SCH" should be nerfed, i'm perfectly fine with how SCH plays, and I don't want to do the same things as a SCH....if I did, I would just play a Scholar. I'm just highlighting a single aspect of how the class can be played.

    That being said, I would be perfectly fine with AST being less equipped to handle those situations if they had something else that made them unique and useful. The real problem is, as I see it, that AST excels at nothing at all, unless you count having the best skill/spell animations. The overall feeling is just that of being passable, yet inferior, at performing every task.

    My apologies for any difficulty in reading this, my purpose was speed rather than ease of reading. At any rate, SE should be aware of all the gripes by now. Either they tweak AST or the company deals with fewer people wanting to play the class and whatever other consequences may come with that.

    Also my apologies to the OP since your post had nothing at all to do with anything but the skill animation. It just somehow turned into this.....so to answer your actual question, i'm actually not bothered by the animation or the similarity to lustrate animation-wise. I think all of AST's animations are awesome.
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    Last edited by Troile; 07-19-2015 at 11:27 AM.

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    Sarynth Midgard
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I started using the spear card on myself if I know I'm going to be using multiple cooldowns such as LA, fime dilation, or synastry. Want to see broken drop the cooldown on dignity :3 tbh though I never paid attention to the animation too much.
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    Totomi Blomi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The chance for it to crit greatly increases as the targets health gets lower, as does its potency. It's a great skill.. compare it to tetragammatron.. Flat out 700 potency on a 1 minute cooldown. It is also a 4-5k heal.
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    You sure about that? I know that Essential Dignity's Potency scales as HP gets lower, but I didn't know about critical strike chance increasing as well. You guys sure that it isn't just confirmation bias colouring your experiences?
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    Rajeme Tkala
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    You sure about that? I know that Essential Dignity's Potency scales as HP gets lower, but I didn't know about critical strike chance increasing as well. You guys sure that it isn't just confirmation bias colouring your experiences?
    I'm not very sure about that because there is no confirmed statistics. Just my experiences. But yeah, I don't take crit rate to the equation cause it's pretty vague.
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    Eraqus Yensid
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    Balmung
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    Yeah if u critic u heal about 9k...but u have to critic...

    I use it always when my target hp are around 1 or 2k. I mean tanks of course and it heals about 4k. Now something more or something less doesn't mean anything. It should heal much more for that 40 seconds cooldown. Or they must lower it's cooldown instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    Yeah if u critic u heal about 9k...but u have to critic...

    I use it always when my target hp are around 1 or 2k. I mean tanks of course and it heals about 4k. Now something more or something less doesn't mean anything. It should heal much more for that 40 seconds cooldown. Or they must lower it's cooldown instead.
    I do crit often as much as the times I don't crit. But won't talk about crit here.

    It's an emergency cooldown, so it's not supposed to be used frequently like your usual heals. No cast time, no mp cost. Potency scales almost 1000.

    I don't play Sch, but here are some comparison:

    Tetragrammation: Potency 700, recast time: 60s.
    Lustrate: Potency 600 but you need aetherflow which is 60s cooldown.

    So, question is, why does cd need to be reduced? It's comparable to other healers' and practically faster cool down.
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    Aija Dal
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rajeme View Post
    I do crit often as much as the times I don't crit. But won't talk about crit here.

    It's an emergency cooldown, so it's not supposed to be used frequently like your usual heals. No cast time, no mp cost. Potency scales almost 1000.

    I don't play Sch, but here are some comparison:

    Tetragrammation: Potency 700, recast time: 60s.
    Lustrate: Potency 600 but you need aetherflow which is 60s cooldown.

    So, question is, why does cd need to be reduced? It's comparable to other healers' and practically faster cool down.
    The problem is that White Mage also has Benediction which is a 100% emergency heal, so they have access to two. Scholars get 3 600 potency Lustrates every 60 seconds. Astrologians get one HP scaling 400 base potency emergency heal every 40 seconds. I'm not saying Astrologian is bad, but when it comes to near-death healing, the other two jobs are vastly superior at pulling parties out of it.
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    Eraqus Yensid
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    The problem is that White Mage also has Benediction which is a 100% emergency heal, so they have access to two. Scholars get 3 600 potency Lustrates every 60 seconds. Astrologians get one HP scaling 400 base potency emergency heal every 40 seconds. I'm not saying Astrologian is bad, but when it comes to near-death healing, the other two jobs are vastly superior at pulling parties out of it.
    Finally someone who knows what to say.
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