Petition Against Ifrit Weapon Designs

[Xionraserei]

Oh, I see. I happen to disagree with you Rath based on who I have talked to but I can see your side too. (response to your first post not 2nd.)

2nd post: I can say I think FF7 is based on more of a real world like ours as far as physics. that's my opinion though. of course materia isn't part of our world but other things seems to similar.

[Ceons]

Although the PUG weapon looks a bit odd (and is a bit too big) This is how Hand to Hand weapons normally look... So Not much to say there.

The THM weapon just looks odd.. It doesn't look much like a wand, but more so like a dagger.

That bow, needs to be slightly more elegant, skinnier/smaller/lighter etc but with all the decoration and glowiness of course. Being an archer is about speed, agility and accuracy and I can't help but feel that even though the weapon looks great it probably shouldn't function better than that 35NM drop bow.

Anyway, still love them... Even if they don't change it maybe they consider some of the feedback for future weapons.

[Xionraserei]

I completely agree.

[Rentahamster]

The THM weapon just looks odd.. It doesn't look much like a wand, but more so like a dagger.

Looks more like an upside-down Playstation Move wand, to me, lmao

I want that axe, though. That thing looks hot. Figuratively, and literally.

[Physic]

Heres what it really boils down to, you dont like the weapons. Lets leave the designer angle out of the discussion, because designers vary greatly, and what is seen as tacky over the top or whatever changes every year (look at real life fashion and then look at different culture's fashion)

As far as not looking like the rest of the stuff, uhhh you might have a point, except eorza is only one continent, we have already seen that garlean technology and style follow a totally different aesthetic, then we also see that beastmen have a totally different aesthetic now i imagine the ifrit aesthetic is the combination of the primal world, the nature of the body parts they harnessed, and probably the amaal jas aesthetic.

It really shouldnt look like something the average swordsmith mass produces. A lot of what people consider "Realistic" in weapons, is realistic in the use of weapons, as mass produced generic things. When you start to look at weapons created by artisans, with no concern for mass production, you start to see a lot more variety in the designs.

that said, yeah the pug weapon looks bad to me. But two things i consider, its a unique and new weapon design, so while it doesnt appeal to me, It may appeal to someone else, giving them an extra option that actually fullfills a different view point. Afterall, they already implied materia weapons will be the most powerfull, and those will be crafted. So no one is forcing you to wear ifrit weapons for peak effeciency, you can choose one of the level 50 crafted weaps, and upgrade the heck out of them, which have a style you apparently prefer.

Honestly im hoping for some new totally different style h2h weaps in the future, because most of them arent really my thing

[Fullmetal]

Hello,

I am very concerned with how these new items might effect the overall image of the game. I will try to state my points without trolling too much or being emotional. I am a designer myself and as far as uniformity goes these things just do not belong.

The Weapons
Based on the video most of us have seen I think that the new weapons are too bulky, tacky looking, and are out of place.

All of the weapons themselves are huge, fat, and clunky. It would appear that they seem from another game almost. When I saw them they made me think of WoW, Aion, and other games as such. It is almost of a Korean MMO design. I think they devalue the game's integrity because they just look cheap and unsophisticated.

It's as if the designers of the weapons couldn't think of anything better and just decided to settle for the sake of getting the Ifrit battle released on time.
"Oh we will just slap horns on everything and make them glow! Because it's Ifrit! It Must Be Horns!".

The worst of all the weapons for me would be the pugilist and archer weapons because they are so giant. The THM weapon looking like PS3 Move Controller or Phallic entity. They all just need more development time.

What are other people's thoughts on these items? When i ask other in game it seems i get like 75% negative feedback on them and then 25% of people actually like them.

Please reconsider these SE,
Especially this coming from a Pugilist, we feel neglected.

-Xion

EDIT: It was brought to my attention that calling this a petition might be a too aggressive word. I want to say this is more of a discussion than an outright petition. I apologizes for any confusion about this thread. Please contribute to this thread with useful commentary on whether you agree or disagree and what should or should not change.

i'll just put this plainly...you are a MORON. this is a next-gen FANTASY based MMO. go educate yourself on the history of final fantasy, young one.

[RathSkybreaker]

ah, personal attacks.. i love how degenerative half of the forum posters from this game are..

[Physic]

Sighs. Look. We dont even know how difficult the encounter is yet for these weapons. Theirs apparently an R30 version, and a R50 version of Ifrit. The R50 version dubbed "Hard mode" *god I wish they didnt call it that* drops these weapons. For all we know R50 Ifrit may be 5x harder then getting a 25 min clear in Dark Hold. Something almost all shells on my server still cannot even do yet due to the severe lack of qualified GLD or MRD tank to be able to do it. Even with one its difficult depending on what kinda people you got in the group.

So unless Ifrit R50 is so easy that people simply have to watch videos of him being done, your not gonna see everyone running around with these Glowworm weapons. Hell one of the new weapon recipes coming out, +2 or even +1 with Grade 4 materia placed in it may be better then the ifrit weapon for all we know. Thats one of the things keeping a few people I know from playing, they dont like the fact that the best equipment may now come from crafting instead of whole dropped from endgame/raids.

Just let the design be. Yea it looks a bit out of place but what you expect, its weapons Ifrit created that came from another realm of existence. Ill expect other Primal God equipment to have the similar art to it as more Gods comes out.

personally i would think they would have different styles. Mostly because these weapons are built around the horns of ifrit, and the heat and power that ifrit represents. I would think a shiva weapon would be a lot more sleek. Titan might look similar though.

[Alexandrious]

Sighs. Look. We dont even know how difficult the encounter is yet for these weapons. Theirs apparently an R30 version, and a R50 version of Ifrit. The R50 version dubbed "Hard mode" *god I wish they didnt call it that* drops these weapons. For all we know R50 Ifrit may be 5x harder then getting a 25 min clear in Dark Hold. Something almost all shells on my server still cannot even do yet due to the severe lack of qualified GLD or MRD tank to be able to do it. Even with one its difficult depending on what kinda people you got in the group.

So unless Ifrit R50 is so easy that people simply have to watch videos of him being done, your not gonna see everyone running around with these Glowworm weapons. Hell one of the new weapon recipes coming out, +2 or even +1 with Grade 4 materia placed in it may be better then the ifrit weapon for all we know. Thats one of the things keeping a few people I know from playing, they dont like the fact that the best equipment may now come from crafting instead of whole dropped from endgame/raids.

Just let the design be. Yea it looks a bit out of place but what you expect, its weapons Ifrit created that came from another realm of existence. Ill expect other Primal God equipment to have the similar art to it as more Gods comes out. This isnt FFXI, the learning curve for players have significantly DROPPED over the years spite alot of the players playing this came from FFXI, but more then likely got dumbed down playing a certain abomination of MMO that lets Mods play half the game for you.

@Hand thats why I said similar Art. Im sure the other primal weapons *or armor* will have glowy or special effects and designed to represent the god they came from. Itll ALL look out of place but of course it will, its equipment made from another realm of existence.

[Bigglesworth]

Let's see you have 580 views on this thread, and only 2 "likes" looks like a whopping .003% agree with you.

Good Luck with the petition.