Petition Against Ifrit Weapon Designs

[Physic]

With as few updates they make with new items and weapons, I ultimately think this was a dissappointment for some, myself included. It's not foolish to want SE to have the best possible relaunch if and when the PS3 version is released. I can tell you that most people that play this game, do not have the same aesthetic tastes as those who play WOW and the like, for obvious reasons.

Again, it just looks like a 3D modeler put these weapons together last minute. Um, excuse me, they reworked the dev team for a reason. Let's not forget that, please. We are trying to fix this game, (and yes we have an influence on the development believe it or not) not make it less than what it could be, especially to those who still play and will continue to play whether they implement this absurd design or not. This is just a tool to say "Hey, SE, we really don't like this, please change it if you can!" And you said yourself that you're displeased with certain weapons but you don't say anything, so don't disallow or judge people that DO vocalize their opinions. Hardcore fans know what the name Final Fantasy entails.

I understand being dissapointed, and i understand not liking the designs. I however dont agree that because someone does not like a design means it should not exist. There are a lot of different people out there, with different tastes. The whole consistency angle is incorrect, This is a world game, it isnt a continent game. If you pay attention to the lore, you see that the perspective we as charachters are familiar with, is a very small one. People know almost nothing about garleans other than they are the enemy, most people dont even understand the beastmen on a basic level.

Point is beastmen are a totally different culture and world, the only ones that even somewhat interact are the flower ones, and even their aesthetic looks very different. It is illogical that weapons made from/for in relation to the amall ja god, look like things that were made in the city states of a totally different culture.

Now, you can say the designs suck, i dont want em, or whatever, but they make sense in the context of the game. Most of you are more afraid that everything will look like ifrit weapons in the future. I hope not, not even because i dislike them, but because they should have MORE options on looks. Its supposed to be a game about (at this point) 4 different beastmen factions, eorzeans, and garleans.

Hating the art is fine, wanting them not to make everything look like it is fine. (dunno why yall are worried too much about this, we have already seen job armors which doesnt look like this at all) But saying they shouldnt exist, is a huge stretch.

[Fensfield]

All I'll say is I am so, so glad they don't seem to glow in passive mode. I'm not too enamoured with the designs myself, I do feel they're kind of ugly beside the more discrete generic forms and probably won't ever use them or their like. But.. still, the developers won a lot of brownie points with me by at least making the glow sod off outside combat.

[Waaltar]

There are mostly games out there that feature the cartoony art style. Are they really going to abandon one of the few things 14 really had going for it?

In the firestorm of criticism around the launch and early months of the game, the art style was barely mentioned, and usually praised when it was mentioned.

There was nothing at all wrong with the overall art style of the game. It was/is awesome.

Personally I think these designs are really hideous, really out of place in this game world, and if garish, fancy pants designs like this become more common they are going to ruin the beautiful look of the game.

It's not really just about fantasy vs realism. The game is already fantasy style and it's awesome. This issue here is more like fantasy vs foppery.

Some people just want to be a fancy dandy man with a fancy dandy toon playing Final Foppery 14. To that I say...no thank you.

[Buddhsie]

There are mostly games out there that feature the cartoony art style. Are they really going to abandon one of the few things 14 really had going for it?

In the firestorm of criticism around the launch and early months of the game, the art style was barely mentioned, and usually praised when it was mentioned.

There was nothing at all wrong with the overall art style of the game. It was/is awesome.

Personally I think these designs are really hideous, really out of place in this game world, and if garish, fancy pants designs like this become more common they are going to ruin the beautiful look of the game.

It's not really just about fantasy vs realism. The game is already fantasy style and it's awesome. This issue here is more like fantasy vs foppery.

Some people just want to be a fancy dandy man with a fancy dandy toon playing Final Foppery 14. To that I say...no thank you.

Yes, the original art style was great, just like art from every Final Fantasy game. With the addition of Ifrit weapons the game continues to hold its original realism and style by adding equipment that suits its source in a multi-dimensional magic using, monster filled world. Don't bring your personal asthetic preferences into it, it doesn't make for a convincing argument.

[Andrien]

Several Conjurer wands look like they were broken off from tree branches with their leaves still attached to them. Hows that for fancy? Does the leaves look pretty and colorful?

[RikkCavalier]

Also, just because you obtain them from Ifrit, doesn't mean they have to look like dead Ifrit body parts! lol.

[Nakiamiie]

I like how the iffrit weapons look, too bad you don't.

[Biggs]

I would like to formally start a petition against starting petitions on these forums. ANyone else think that sounds stupid? Because it really is. These guys are making a game you have the OPTION to play. Petitions are ussually reserved for laws and things that, once implimented, can't be changed or are NOT optional. You know the devs took one look at the title of your thread here and either laughed outloud to themselves or did a facepalm.

I have nothing against you posting your displeasure about the choice in weapon design, but how about we start choosing which words we use a little more carefully? There already seems to be enough confrontational language on this site as it is. Also, you totally have the option to just not get the weapons altogether. I personally think the crafting outfit with good stats that makes everyone look like a flight attendant is some of the most retarded looking gear in the game. And good stat or not, you know what? I DONT USE IT! Totally not the end of the world.

[Lienn]

I agree with Ren. IMO would be much better we having the weapons themed under amaldaj'aa instead of ifrit itself. And even if themed under ifrit, it wasn't needed to be like it will be...we already have a bunch of "horn-based" weapons and still none of them look this out of place.

Also, i agree that this will permanently damage the art direction of the game, from a mainly realistic way to a oversized, shiny korean style...the problem is neither they being oversized, shiny or korean...the problem is them not matching the game as a whole...if instead of these they decided adding FFVII weapons here, it would be the very same situation...they aren't shiny or korean but still they wouldn't match the game due their size.

Another example would be gunblade...we have gunblade here...could we add FFVIII gunblades here too? Of course! Because in an overall vision FFVIII and FFXIV follow nearly the same art direction...but what about FFXIII gunblade? Nop. Even though it's a gunblade and this game lore supports it, Lightning's gunblade wouldn't match FFXIV context. The technology style used on it doesn't match...even if they are "even" many aspects.

In short, putting these Ifrit weapons here is like putting a dude with Tron costume in a Star Wars movie...we have shiny stuff in star wars, we have darth vader with armor, we have flying discs, etc there too...and still the Tron dude wouldn't match with star wars art direction.

EDIT: Actually...there is one possibility...if they make amaldaj'aa context match ifrit weapon styles, it's all fixed...like making them having mainly bone/horn weapons, armors, etc. With the beastmen update it would open a context where these weapons would fit...

Think on this like Aht Urghan...having a turban alone in FFXI was exactly like these weapons, not matching the game at all...but still they added all the context where the turban would fit the game together with it.

[Buddhsie]

Lienn, every single time I've read one of your posts its heavily against the game. Why do you even play if you hate everything it has to offer? Do us all a favour and go play something else.