SE, Please do somthing about the boring gear stats.. Please just read first...

[fireslash]

-easy swift grind and if possible delete *grind* and leave easy n swift
-permanent ever changing gear
-a new obtaining mechanics
-does not effect DF party preferences
-does not effect market
-does have vanity features
-recycle certain content (optional)
-tied to a side quest line?


this will be too hard to implement , i think

[Marcux]

Doesn't have to be a grind, or it can be a grind, it's however SE would want to make it, the base idea is that of getting gear that is a horizontal progression.

SE almost had this right when they made the Relic weapons, you can either have a relic or the raid weapon, both were same ilevel but you could custimize the raid weapon which made it sometimes better.

to do a true horizontal, you'd need more than just base stats. make interesting gear and people will want to actually collect it.. and isn't that why people play mmo's? to get stronger, get loot. The reason why so many people were so protective of ffxi, it because you actually had to work to get gear. like camp stuff (nm's), save up for gear (relic), combine item (elemental staves), run salvage. You appreciated the item you worked for. Now i'm not saying i want this game to be like ffxi. but this game makes it so you could care less about gear when the new stuff comes out. It's replaced in under a day. Name one piece of gear you can't get in 1 day in this game.. except for a relic weapon? and now alexander gear because of tokens. Nothing is really earned in this game. nothing you want to keep, no cool stats.. this is why i said gear is boring.

[Culfinrandir]

What worries me is that Yoshi's philosophy is to play safe. Is this what we have to look forward too five years down the line? Grinding for tombstones of generics for our ilvl 560 gear just so we can then enter the next raid in order to get our hands on the ilvl 565 gear?

You mean Tomestones of Geriatrics. ;3

[B0YRaNmA]

I don't think that the OP wants a copy of XI exactly, but I'm sure FF fans miss the time when holding an Excalibur mean something and not just a sword that is sharper than the sword that was used earlier. I'm sure as an FF fan, you miss the time when you were able to use a Flame Sword to cast fire spells or the likes. BTW isn't the design for the current looks kind of dull? All the gear looks like one another w/ the exception of color. Kind of reminding me of when I used to play Destiny...

[Hayward]

I don't think that the OP wants a copy of XI exactly, but I'm sure FF fans miss the time when holding an Excalibur mean something and not just a sword that is sharper than the sword that was used earlier. I'm sure as an FF fan, you miss the time when you were able to use a Flame Sword to cast fire spells or the likes. BTW isn't the design for the current looks kind of dull? All the gear looks like one another w/ the exception of color. Kind of reminding me of when I used to play Destiny...

I was there when this got out of control with the "Aegis/Ochain/Empyrean Weapon only" nonsense and how things got that much worse with SoA. A high number of Paladins were pretty much frozen out of endgame content due to 1) the lack of viable and accessible alternatives and 2) The ridiculous grind required to even get those weapons.

I'm not opposed to a Materia-type augmenting system for weapons, but armor would probably be too much to even think about.

[Hypie]

I'm not opposed to a Materia-type augmenting system for weapons, but armor would probably be too much to even think about.

Pretty much everyone who doesnt wants to bled dry from the crafters is opposed to that

[Imoye]

Yeah guys, let's be forced to gather 1000 different gear sets with different resist types just to be viable on certain encounters. No thanks.

They could add gemming though, to all pieces, so you can have a bit more freedom. I personally think gearing in this game is a bit too linear and there's no room for customization. But the stats as they are now are fine.

WoW back in WoTLK was pretty awsome in that regard.

[odintius]

Think mostly people want some horizontal progression, but every time it brought up usually the people who oppose it take it to the extremes of total horizontal progression when it actually I think

<Pure Horizontal>---------------------------------<Hi I'm Here who with me>------------------------------------------<vertical progression>

[B0YRaNmA]

I keep hearing about people carrying hella sets of gears. Isn't it suppose to be about performing good at your main job and everything else is just about helping your friends, your FC, and/or your static to fill in the spot where you might be of help? I mean, if you're carrying it to glamour, then you can always take it out of your retainers. You can also take it out of your retainers as you need even for party, all that is needed to be done is to tell you lead to hold on a sec. I'm sure they can wait. Unless you're a crafter/gatherer, in which case then your retainers are full, might want to consider taking some time to clear off what is not needed.