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    Why Didn't the Ascian... (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

    So I may have come a bit unprepared when making this post as I'm not sure of the particular Ascian's name off the top of my head, but here goes...



    I'm really surprised that the Ascian who shows up with the archbishop at the end of the Bismarck story fight doesn't just throw us off the floating island. I was thinking about it today. He easily lifts us up and holds us in place with his dark magic whilst they steal our hard-earned key...but why does he not just flick his wrist and send us flying off this tiny flying island's edge?

    To my understanding, it's doubtable that Cid would have been able to come to our rescue while falling since he was towing the aforementioned island. I don't think we could have summoned a flying mount while falling since you can't summon a mount whilst jumping or falling in the overworld. I suppose you could argue we could teleport since we can do that in the air now, though we still can't do that while falling from, say, a cliff.

    Again, it just sort of seems like it would have been an easy thing within this Ascian's power to do...even if he wasn't sure it'd actually kill us, it'd get us out of the way for a bit. I know there's a thousand "what ifs" but I just thought this one was kind of fun since it just came to mind. Were there any other obvious kill-shots the Ascian's haven't taken at us yet that maybe I just don't remember? Curious to hear what you guys think on it!
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    You misunderstand- We cant summon our Gryphon while running/falling because it's Mechanic Bound. In a Cutszene there are whole other Laws active such as summoning your trusty Gryphon/Chocobo. Same with Teleporting to the nearest Aetheryt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    You misunderstand- We cant summon our Gryphon while running/falling because it's Mechanic Bound. In a Cutszene there are whole other Laws active such as summoning your trusty Gryphon/Chocobo. Same with Teleporting to the nearest Aetheryt.
    Ah, I understand where you're coming from. The way I always thought of it was that we couldn't teleport while falling or running because the Teleport Spell takes quite a bit of concentration, and you'd have to be in a still, safe place before attempting it. Which is why we can't port while in combat or skydiving haha. With mounts I just assumed it was something similar, since you can't summon them in battle either; it just needs to be a "safe" place to bring them out.
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    Last edited by CodeCass; 07-17-2015 at 01:41 AM. Reason: grammer
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    So I may have come a bit unprepared when making this post as I'm not sure of the particular Ascian's name off the top of my head, but here goes...



    I'm really surprised that the Ascian who shows up with the archbishop at the end of the Bismarck story fight doesn't just throw us off the floating island. I was thinking about it today. He easily lifts us up and holds us in place with his dark magic whilst they steal our hard-earned key...but why does he not just flick his wrist and send us flying off this tiny flying island's edge?

    To my understanding, it's doubtable that Cid would have been able to come to our rescue while falling since he was towing the aforementioned island. I don't think we could have summoned a flying mount while falling since you can't summon a mount whilst jumping or falling in the overworld. I suppose you could argue we could teleport since we can do that in the air now, though we still can't do that while falling from, say, a cliff.

    Again, it just sort of seems like it would have been an easy thing within this Ascian's power to do...even if he wasn't sure it'd actually kill us, it'd get us out of the way for a bit. I know there's a thousand "what ifs" but I just thought this one was kind of fun since it just came to mind. Were there any other obvious kill-shots the Ascian's haven't taken at us yet that maybe I just don't remember? Curious to hear what you guys think on it!
    im sure there have been plenty of times but i imagine (going off what nabrialis said about not killing minfilia) that they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    im sure there have been plenty of times but i imagine (going off what nabrialis said about not killing minfilia) that they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
    Ah! That's true. I had forgotten about that part. That very well may be the case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
    Hm true, Elidibus does want to keep us alive for some reason, even though he then calls
    The Warrior of Darkness
    to take care of us. Make up your mind buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflie View Post
    Hm true, Elidibus does want to keep us alive for some reason, even though he then calls
    The Warrior of Darkness
    to take care of us. Make up your mind buddy!
    I don't know if he wants us dead still. The WoD may be called on to capture us, not kill us. Or to provide enough of a distraction that Elidibus can do his thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I don't know if he wants us dead still. The WoD may be called on to capture us, not kill us. Or to provide enough of a distraction that Elidibus can do his thing
    He certainly needs us for something, he has mentionned that we are the Key for whatever he is doing.
    I do see that WoD might be there to make sure we aren't TOO strong for what Eli wants us to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflie View Post
    He certainly needs us for something, he has mentionned that we are the Key for whatever he is doing.
    I do see that WoD might be there to make sure we aren't TOO strong for what Eli wants us to do.
    Calling it. The story is gonna be a rehash of the Majin Buu saga from DBZ. The energy of the WoL and the WoD clashing is gonna awaken Zodiark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I don't know if he wants us dead still. The WoD may be called on to capture us, not kill us. Or to provide enough of a distraction that Elidibus can do his thing
    I think he wants to prolong the conflict, so the chaos can continue to feed Zodiark. He seems to think the other Ascians are acting to fast, maybe he knows Zodiark needs more power before he can be reborn.

    The WoD seems like the tool to provide a counter to us.
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