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    Tanks are still taking STR accessories.

    Despite SE's efforts tanks are still taking Strength accessories. By making STR and VIT equal in regards to attack power, secondary stats are the deciding factor.

    Fending accessories are filled with parry and accuracy, both lackluster secondary stats.

    Slaying accessories have the desired secondary stats that tanks want to increase their damage.

    The only real way to solve this is one of two ways. Make parry worthwhile or make Strength lower than Vitality in terms of damage.
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    Are you sure they're not still wearing STR accessories because they just haven't had time to get new ones yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    Are you sure they're not still wearing STR accessories because they just haven't had time to get new ones yet?
    That is how I am I am somewhat hybrid: I got 2 Gordian fending pieces and bought 2 unupgraded ESO pieces (Earring/Wrist) but as long as they only 200 compared to i210 slaying I still have I lose attack power, still I use the 200 fendings for Sephi the few times I try to tank it :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    Are you sure they're not still wearing STR accessories because they just haven't had time to get new ones yet?
    Oh, there are quite a few tanks still wearing it. They want to see their "Attack Power" increase because wearing "VIT" isn't increasing the actual number in the Attributes screen. Some don't want to meld their fending gear with STR.
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Oh, there are quite a few tanks still wearing it. They want to see their "Attack Power" increase because wearing "VIT" isn't increasing the actual number in the Attributes screen. Some don't want to meld their fending gear with STR.
    What are you babbling about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Oh, there are quite a few tanks still wearing it. They want to see their "Attack Power" increase because wearing "VIT" isn't increasing the actual number in the Attributes screen. Some don't want to meld their fending gear with STR.
    What? VIT increases the Attack Power number in the Attributes screen. As far as not wanting to meld STR, what else are you gonna meld it with? STR's stat weight is far higher than Crit and DET because it directly increases your Attack Power too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    But I personally don't agree with this as the situations mention by them (Bikkusu) aren't that great and really a crit set stands to benefit more from Blood Bath and Soul Eater in my opinion instead of a ability that no one should be using at top tier play (Clemancy) or a skill that won't always be used for heals and is probably better used for tp restoration still (Equilibrium). But I still don't agree that stacking full crit is the way to go.
    I don't even know what to make of that. Cutting your HP pool for an RNG proc when stuff is hitting as hard as it is seems silly to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    What? VIT increases the Attack Power number in the Attributes screen. As far as not wanting to meld STR, what else are you gonna meld it with? STR's stat weight is far higher than Crit and DET because it directly increases your Attack Power too.



    I don't even know what to make of that. Cutting your HP pool for an RNG proc when stuff is hitting as hard as it is seems silly to me.
    It does to me too. Which is why I don't agree with them. ;.;

    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    A few people seem to think Bikkusu is trying to get more dps, even though she's stated several times she's just trying to get more equilibrium crits. However, I agree with you. Either one doesn't offer enough reward for sacrificing all that vit.
    Some probably do now. But I think what the people talking about the DPS are saying is that the minor DPS increase would be a better excuse to stack the crit rather than the RNG heals that are situational at best.

    But I'm happy a majority of us can agree at least that all in all it's a silly idea until further proof proves us wrong.
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    Last edited by Seku; 03-08-2016 at 05:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
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    I dunno about the other tanks but an i240 fending set with 0 parry is possible on DRK.

    This isn't a problem in any serious content. Even wearing pentamelds can endanger your life with some of the TBs that are going out right now. You want that HP.

    Plus you can fucking meld all those secondaries into the "bad" fending accessores, and STR Vs too.

    Tanks still wearing full slaying gear right now are either bad, casual, or as Kumo said, they haven't had time to get new ones (poor excuse IMO, but I digress).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    I dunno about the other tanks but an i240 fending set with 0 parry is possible on DRK.

    This isn't a problem in any serious content. Even wearing pentamelds can endanger your life with some of the TBs that are going out right now. You want that HP.

    Plus you can fucking meld all those secondaries into the "bad" fending accessores, and STR Vs too.

    Tanks still wearing full slaying gear right now are either bad, casual, or as Kumo said, they haven't had time to get new ones (poor excuse IMO, but I digress).
    Considering all 3 tanks use basically the same set now, it is possible. Except pld, who suck a 20 parry stat on their 245 shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    I dunno about the other tanks but an i240 fending set with 0 parry is possible on DRK.
    If you don't mind me asking but what is this magical no parry set, and can it be done with i220? (I don't have a static for raiding savage at the minute)
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