Hillarity.

[xXRaineXx]

Just putting this out there first, I'm enjoying the game as it is. It's not WOW (not WoW) great, but not 'this shites dyin' bad. (Sorry for the bad puns...).

Before the hotfix came along, people all over complained that Diadem killed the core content of the game for giving out free 210's... though I probably did it about 15 times and only got one monster chest.

Now they changed it so it's less viable, yes it's more grindy... but everyone loves to 'make' things grindy.
Thus the complaints changed from 'DIADEM RUINED THE GAME CHANGE IT!' to 'OMG YOU CHANGED IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!'.

Irony never changes... Though it's quite amusing to read during my breaks, so keep em coming ;p

[Lexia]

Yes this is true and I've been saying the exact same thing, nice to see someone else also say it.

[WinterLuna]

I have no problem with the changes. However I thought Diadem was disappointing and grindy in the first place, but hey.

Plus it's one side arguing against another. The entire player base isn't one person changing their minds. It's one party being happy the way it was and another liking the changes. It's bound to happen. Wouldn't call it hilarity.

[CrimsonThunder]

Is there a constructive point to this thread?

[xXRaineXx]

Yes this is true and I've been saying the exact same thing, nice to see someone else also say it.

Sometimes I think the game will do better if Yoshida stops reading the forums for a while.

[Youkulm]

Sometimes I think the game will do better if Yoshida stops reading the forums for a while.

This so much. I feel like the dev team need to stop taking so much suggestion from the community and just do what they think is best for the game.

[Nestama]

Personally I would have preferred they changed Diadem so that when you kill mobs, they stay dead (so you wipe out monsters of the island to spawn the NM and then HNM designed specifically for that island. This includes exploring the caves). Once everything is dead, you are safe to gather or whatever. Also there will be no 'competing' parties.

That's what I expected Diadem to always be when it was first announced, anyway (and since it's not and I found it very boring, I refuse to believe it exists in the game at all)... kill stuff, explore, get the loot and mobs with mechanics and not be Kraken sponges.

[WinterLuna]

This so much. I feel like the dev team need to stop taking so much suggestion from the community and just do what they think is best for the game.

99% of the time I'd agree with this, but this time how do we even know it was the player base that caused the changes? I don't think SE actually intended players to zerg mobs for 90 minutes and come home with crazy amounts of BiS 210 gear. I think they messed up from the beginning and realised their mistake.

It's not always players that influence Square. They can mess up to, and have to pick up the pieces.

[NovaLevossida]

Diadem wasn't interesting before as it was just a FATE that lasted 90 minutes. It didn't have pop items, forced spawns, tiered NMs, exploration, or anything remotely interesting; it was just fighting non-stop for an hour and a half. The real complaint about the change is that they haven't made it any more interesting but they have made your time spent in there less valuable. Seems to be the worst of both worlds.

[Khyan]

The problem is the gear you can get from savage content should be with an higher ilvl. Decrease rate chance to drop 210 gear from diadem didn't change anything.

Anyways, Diadem is really boring. They should add more things to do other than just fight during endless battle.