Optional item request: Legacy Goobue mount

[mbncd]

[SNIP] Any other 1.0 item, though (looking at you, Onion set!) I can understand why they'd bring back.

Just as a side note, you can get pieces of the onion set from ventures I believe. I have 2 pairs of the shoes and I'm pretty sure I only had one full set with no extras at the end of 1.xx. I don't actually remember when or how I got the extra shoes but I think it must've been via ventures.

[squidbunny]

*cough* Yeah, uh. That person doesn't speak for all Legacy players.

IN SUMMARY AND IN CONCLUSION. No v1 apologism from me; 2 is great and I'm pleased with its direction and community (generally?), but I'd like certain things to be kept out of the cash shop if it was suggested their availability was limited, and going back to something someone said on a previous page, this includes things from v2 that were presented in a way that suggested they couldn't be obtained in the future.

[Mhikail]

ITT: All of the sudden people love a failed game that they hated to the ground.

Well, wonder why we're here today lol.

[squidbunny]

I actually see Titor's point, but my point is that if they start rolling back promises of exclusivity then who's to say Legacy's promised reduced subscription isn't revokable as well.

[Gyson]

I actually see Titor's point, but my point is that if they start rolling back promises of exclusivity then who's to say Legacy's promised reduced subscription isn't revokable as well.

I think losing the reduced subscription is an unreasonable fear, although it remaining exclusive to Legacy players is another story. It's fairly common for developers to decide that exclusive means "for an undisclosed period of time" rather than forever.

And the natural extension of your point is that all seasonal event rewards should never be available to those who join the game post-event, because they were late to the party and you weren't. Special snowflake needs trumps access to allowing everyone to have access to fun stuff and all that, after all. We should think of this as less like a game for entertainment and more as a serious competition between the haves and have-nots. :P

Hypothetical question: what will you say if one day SE offers that same reduced subscription pricing to players as Veteran's reward (without allowing it to stack with the existing pricing bonus Legacy players are already receiving), essentially broadening the number of players eligible for it?

Or, what if one day they choose to reduce the subscription price of this game to $9.99 a month, or offer a 1 year subscription option at $9.99 per month, or simply make the game free to play? Would that just be the last straw if other players were enjoying the same discount as you? You simply have to be receiving a better deal despite the reduced cost you enjoyed since the relaunch?

Just curious.

[squidbunny]

And the natural extension of your point is that all seasonal event rewards should never be available to those who join the game post-event, because they were late to the party and you weren't. Special snowflake needs trumps access to allowing everyone to have access to fun stuff and all that, after all. We should think of this as less like a game for entertainment and more as a serious competition between the haves and have-nots. :P

Well minus the serious competition bit I agree with your extrapolated extension of my point; I don't see anything wrong with being locked out of seasonal event items I missed (there are lots; most are available in the cash shop and I'm not buying them but that's beside the point.)

Hypothetical question: what will you say if one day SE offers that same reduced subscription pricing to players as Veteran's reward (without allowing it to stack with the existing pricing bonus Legacy players are already receiving), essentially broadening the number of players eligible for it?

Or, what if one day they choose to reduce the subscription price of this game to $9.99 a month, or offer a 1 year subscription option at $9.99 per month, or simply make the game free to play? Would that just be the last straw if other players were enjoying the same discount as you? You simply have to be receiving a better deal despite the reduced cost you enjoyed since the relaunch?

Just curious.

My personal kneejerk is I wouldn't mind the reduced subscription eventually showing up as a Veteran reward, and obviously if the whole mess went FTP it'd stop being relevant, but if the general subscription dropped I think they ought to drop Legacy rates along with it (along with the rates of your proposed reduced-rates Veterans) per their promises. I doubt I'd quit playing if they didn't, but it might depend on my relationship with the game at that hypothetical point. It's less about me being special and/or getting a superior deal, and more about standing by pledges explicitly made.

Nowhere did I say I had to be receiving a better deal?

Edit: Unrelated to your weirdly hostile tenor, Gyson, legit thanks for reminding me about editing to skirt the char limit. I haven't been active on here in awhile.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I am Legacy and I have the mount on my Naraku Diabolos character. HOWEVER, they need to make it that if you have the mount on your 1.0 character, it goes across all of your characters. Same with my Hermes Shoes on my 1.0 character.