Optional item request: Legacy Goobue mount

[Gramul]

I mean it more than I ever meant anything on these forums. You played a game, good job, pat on the back. You pay a substantially less amount of money per month than non legacy people. If you really need tons of virtual pixels to keep patting yourself for playing a old game then I dunno man.

So why exactly do you want it so bad if it's just a ton of virtual pixels?

You had every opportunity I had to become a legacy member. To get the discount, to get the Legacy stuff. They gave plenty of warning beforehand. Even a welcome back campaign.
I missed out on the Horn and the White Ravens, but I'm not going to be envious about it. It's just something I missed from 1.0. And the people who got them aren't greedy. They just took the opportunity when it arrived.

[Titor]

You had every opportunity I had to become a legacy member

Not really, I was not an avid SE follower at the time, and I never saw an advertisement for it on my general internet venues/TV/anywhere else. I was not even aware SE had MMO's until 2.0 when I joined. Is that my fault? Maybe, but I was looking around for MMOs around the time of 1.0, and have tried many different once, but honestly never saw anything that even hinted it existed. Pretty sure I have played most other MMOs of the time, so I feel like there is not much more I could have done to find it at the time.

As a supporter and player of the game now, it would be nice to have equal ground in terms of in-game items or mount collecting for an opportunity I never had.

[Gyson]

NO.

Come on, I'm not even a Legacy player and I'd love me that goobbue as bad as anyone but this would be the worst thing. The people who earned it did so by playing a game that was absolute garbage. Let them wear it as a badge of honor for suffering through 1.0, as they do their tattoos and scorched chocobos.

I think Goobue's are silly looking mounts, so I don't care one way or another. What I do care about is the idea of rewarding Legacy players over and over again for sticking with the game (a game which was free to play for a *very* long time because of the issues it had).

Simply put, it was likely many of these players who loved the original incarnation of FFXIV who also stood in the way of feedback to change/improve the game back during beta (when that feedback was needed the most). Back then you couldn't make a complaint about FFXIV without its biggest fans coming at you with torch, pitchfork, and a whole lot of trolling. In the end they were the ones left with the game because they had helped chased everyone else off, and in the process contributing to the disaster that it was.

But, by all means, keep patting them on the back. :P

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Simply put, it was likely many of these players who loved the original incarnation of FFXIV who also stood in the way of feedback to change/improve the game back during beta (when that feedback was needed the most). Back then you couldn't make a complaint about FFXIV without its biggest fans coming at you with torch, pitchfork, and a whole lot of trolling. In the end they were the ones left with the game because they had helped chased everyone else off, and in the process contributing to the disaster that it was.

I don't think you understand... No1 liked 1.0. The sheer amount of fanboyism, white knighting, and absurd defense arguments during 1.0 was staggering!! It puts the console war to shame. I truly believe there are people that would buy a box filled with dogshit if you put a final fantasy logo on it.

[Teryaani]

I don't think you understand... No1 liked 1.0. The sheer amount of fanboyism, white knighting, and absurd defense arguments during 1.0 was staggering!! It puts the console war to shame. I truly believe there are people that would buy a box filled with dogshit if you put a final fantasy logo on it.

and it still is going on. There always is a fervent defender of whatever oddball decision comes down the pipe. From the sounds of it, the volume of oddball decisions has gotten smaller (which is good) but the defense of them is just as vigorous (which is not). I wish more people could enjoy something but be able to accept that it has faults.

OP: I'm not a legacy player and truthfully I don't mind them keeping the legacy awards as exclusive. There isn't much in the game that is truly exclusive and them having minor bits of shininess seems okay to me. Had I not come from WoW, which was laden with things that came once and then never came back, I probably would care more, but Blizzard beat that out of me.

[Hybe]

[squidbunny]

I think Goobue's are silly looking mounts, so I don't care one way or another. What I do care about is the idea of rewarding Legacy players over and over again for sticking with the game (a game which was free to play for a *very* long time because of the issues it had).

"Over and over again"? They're not (and should not) adding any additional rewards for Legacy players. This is just about sticking to a finite couple of promises made back then. The limited nature of all the v1 and Legacy crap was widely publicized; if it was that important to you to get this stuff I guess you should have?

Folks keep saying Legacy users are "greedy". How is this need to have everything they earned by supporting trainwreck v1 long enough for it to make it to v2 not greed?

[Gyson]

"Over and over again"? They're not (and should not) adding any additional rewards for Legacy players. This is just about sticking to a finite couple of promises made back then. The limited nature of all the v1 and Legacy crap was widely publicized; if it was that important to you to get this stuff I guess you should have?

Folks keep saying Legacy users are "greedy". How is this need to have everything they earned by supporting trainwreck v1 long enough for it to make it to v2 not greed?

You should have included the rest of my quote, as it addressed your comments.

[squidbunny]

You should have included the rest of my quote, as it addressed your comments.

The rest of your comment addressed nothing from mine, and had nothing to do with your main idea about rewarding Legacy players "over and over again", or the OP, or the limitation of certain items. The rest of your comment sounded like a bunch of petulance about things you weren't around for. Yes, there was white knighting. No, Legacy players weren't responsible for how broken v1 was. I am a Legacy player, specifically because I was excited about the direction Yoshi P and his team purported to be taking the game in and I wanted to support it. I bought it for $8 off eBay long after launch, which I avoided after playing the horrific beta. V1 was awful. It was awful. It doesn't matter if a handful of people enjoyed a handful of things about it. It was unsustainable regardless because the vast majority of people found it awful. That's not at issue.

[Emstidor]

It's worth pointing out that there is precendent to SE taking a previously-1.0 exclusive item and making it available to everyone in 2/3.0:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/65b9ed2a045/

The Star-spangled subligar was originally a quest reward for finishing the last available Fisher quest at level 36 in 1.23. When 2.0 launched with the completely new Guild quests that ran all the way to 50, they completely did away with the old quest system and the item because unavailable to anyone who hadn't completed the old quest...that is until they added it as a reward for finishing the Postmoogle quest chain a few months ago.

In this way the item reward was very similar to the level 30 Wandering Minstrel quest that became unavailable to anyone who hadn't completed it by 2.0 launch. So there IS a possibility that SE will re-introduce the old Goobbue mount item as a reward for some future quest chain.

If I'm being honest, when they re-added the subligar I was initially upset that my item was no longer "special" to me and a select few, but over time I'm glad that more people have had the opportunity to share in what is a pretty unique and cool-looking item. In this way if they ever added a way to obtain the mount, I would probably be a little sad at first, but also happy that a greater amount of people can enjoy a cool-looking mount.

That said, as far as the Legacy chocobo/mark are concerned, SE did explicitly say those would be unique rewards to players with "Legacy" status, and I think it'd be better if they stuck to their word on that. Any other 1.0 item, though (looking at you, Onion set!) I can understand why they'd bring back.