MCH is a good but

[Kiara1]

I really enjoy machinist. But I really hate the cast bar. It's so annoying that im missing one GCD to use an OGCD unless I use them during procs, but since procs dont always happen I need to sacrifice a GCD.

I also dislike that if you use rapid fire, you can't do 1-2-3 because the proc is slower than GCD so you end up using clean shot, and see the proc after

Other than that it's a fun job

Ooh and some pet micro would be nice

[DarkRain]

Former WHM gone MCH speaking, so I'm still trying to figure out how to DPS properly. But for times when the bonuses just don't appear, that's when I normally pop my cross-classed cooldowns (Hawk's Eye or Raging Strikes) so that my DPS doesn't fall into the void, never to be seen again. The only situations I've encountered where this isn't as feasible is when a sudden DPS burst is required, and I end up expending all of my remaining cooldowns to meet the check. That being said, I normally save ammunition for when worse comes to worst and I have no other cooldowns and am getting no procs.

I go all out i play on PS4 and have a lot of things macroed i do great i think. I can stream my rotation if you want to see on twitch look for Cloudrippers stream

[Krylo]

But for times when the bonuses just don't appear, that's when I normally pop my cross-classed cooldowns (Hawk's Eye or Raging Strikes)

You don't wanna do that. You'll get a bigger overall DPS increase on those abilities by using them alongside reload (and to snap cast DoTs, obviously).

To put it another way, nothing is proccing, best DPS in that situation is spamming splitshot (until it does) where you'd normally 1-2-3. Raging strikes is +20%. So lets look at some potency per second, ignoring oGCDs etc.

1-1-1 = 140 potency every 2.5 seconds or 56 potency per second.

1-2-3 = 160+200+220 = 580/3 = 193 (and a third) potency per GCD . 77 (and a third) potency per second.

Now if you use raging strikes for the top one you increase your potency per second by 11.2, for a total potency per second over that time period of 67.2

If you use raging strikes during the second you increase your potency by 15.4, for a total potency per second over that time period of 92.8.

Or to put it another way you get an extra 4.2 potency per second using Raging Strikes alongside ammo greater than it would using it without which does add up to more DPS over an encounter.

[DarkRain]

http://www.twitch.tv/cloud_ripper

My rotation and the CDs DPS gains then loss

[Amiaze]

I go all out i play on PS4 and have a lot of things macroed i do great i think. I can stream my rotation if you want to see on twitch look for Cloudrippers stream

Thanks, I'll do that! I don't get to see other MCHs rotations very often, so this will be a treat. I prefer to look at other people and modify my own strategy rather than just looking up what the "best" rotation is. Hoping I can get back into T9 and put it to the test, just because there are so many DPS and mechnics checks in there. It certainly modified my healing; I can't stop casting stoneskin whenever a tank takes even a little damage. >_> Everything is Ravensbeaks to me. Hoping T9 will do the same for MCH.

[Haxetc]

@Krylo You did your math wrong. The 123 isn't calculating pps. You just added the potency of all 3 WS' and divided by the number of WS which gave you the average potency of the 3. The actual potency of a 111 v 123 is actually not the big however you also can't forget that the ammunition effect adds 20 potency to your WS'.

Either way, I'll be putting out a guide that will be done by Saturday. It'll go over almost everything. If you have questions that you'd like answered in the guide you can add me on Guildwork.com @ http://guildwork.com/users/haxetc and send me a PM. I want to try and cover all questions the community has. Also, if you watch it and have feedback on things that could be done different/better let me know. I'm open to any criticism, I promise.

[Keylus]

I really enjoy machinist. But I really hate the cast bar. It's so annoying that im missing one GCD to use an OGCD unless I use them during procs, but since procs dont always happen I need to sacrifice a GCD.

You can press the OGCD button .5 sec (approx) before you end the cast (unless you have it in a macro), that way you will use the OGCD in the moment you end the cast and you will be able to cast again when the GCD is coming off

The only thing that I find uncomfortable is the little time you have to see the first proc
I put a button in the middle of my screen with Slug Shot, I wait until the end of the OGCD, if at that time the button have the proc's outline I press 2 and if not I press 1. That way I avoid doing tunnel vision

When you have a proc you get an special noise, If you don't have the proc you hear a thud "tsuds"
If you have the proc you hear "tsuds-bling", something like that, I am not good with onomatopoeias
but in the heat of battle it's hard to hear

[Krylo]

@Krylo You did your math wrong. The 123 isn't calculating pps. You just added the potency of all 3 WS' and divided by the number of WS which gave you the average potency of the 3. The actual potency of a 111 v 123 is actually not the big however you also can't forget that the ammunition effect adds 20 potency to your WS'.

You're right I did forget a bit of the math and got potency per GCD (or 2.5 seconds--which is also average potency of the three because I was only doing three attacks) and ignored the base ammo effect.

In my defense I just woke up and had to get up to take care of something (namely my sister's kid was crying and she was trying to get a ravana normal clear while leveling). All the same, thanks for pointing it out so I could fix it (which I've done now). The end result of it being better to use alongside reload when possible is the same, however (a 20% increase in damage done over a period of time will obviously be a greater increase over all if the damage done during that time is heavier).

[DarkRain]

Testing on the stream Gauss is a waste of time the 30% increase is less then the auto attack procs.

[Krylo]

Testing on the stream Gauss is a waste of time the 30% increase is less then the auto attack procs.

Are you including the DPS increase of being able to use ricochet and gauss round? Without those two abilities it SHOULD be ~the same DPS (auto attacks add up to 20-25% of dps, with a 30% increase you end up with around 97%-104% of your non-gauss damage without including them, which is to say Gauss is likely a wash by itself).