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  1. #41
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    Izsha's Avatar
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Good tanks can pull it off because they know fights inside and out, when they will take damage, how to optimize cooldowns etc to survive rather comfortably (in current content) with a lot less hp.

    Bad tanks don't know how to manage their defenses in a specific encounter and need more hp to compensate .

    The only problem is everyone thinks they are good tanks.
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  2. #42
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    Shabazz Hajjar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    As of right now, I am doing Attribute points in STR and VIT accessories since there is usually at least 1-2 random people in everything I do. This enables my healer friend who runs with me from time to time to dps more on his AST and I can just worry about tanking. Thats the way I like to play it.
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  3. #43
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shabaaz View Post
    As of right now, I am doing Attribute points in STR and VIT accessories since there is usually at least 1-2 random people in everything I do. This enables my healer friend who runs with me from time to time to dps more on his AST and I can just worry about tanking. Thats the way I like to play it.
    Agreed this is how I play as of right now too, my healer friend and my other 3 dps friends we've been farming Alexander all week with 3 randoms. I find tanking with points in str with vit accs because the other 3 people I have no idea how they play, what their play style is or how the other healer is in terms as a player. I let my Scholar friend heal when it's really needed and dps when it's available. However as a drk I usually don't run with str off pieces unless it's a premade group (dungeons, raids if we can find the people for it).
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  4. #44
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    Seku's Avatar
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad-phx View Post
    as a pld i always have and always will stack vit. the more hp you have as a pld the better your personal stoneskin/divine veil/spirits within works so thats what i feel i need and has worked wonders for everything before 3.0 and still currently works fine. granted i used 110 pentamelded for last leg of 2.xx with fending str melded but str no longer affects block/parry % so im 100% vit now
    Yeah...no.
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  5. #45
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Its not only about STR and VIT. Its about Slaying Accessories also missing substats more suited to tanking, namely Parry, and skillspeed as a distant second (helps with DPS too, obviously). According to the healers in my FC, the difference between skillful tank players and the low-skill guys you come across here and there has never been as massive, and as noticable, as it is right now.
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  6. #46
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    Van Buren
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    Its not only about STR and VIT. Its about Slaying Accessories also missing substats more suited to tanking, namely Parry, and skillspeed as a distant second (helps with DPS too, obviously). According to the healers in my FC, the difference between skillful tank players and the low-skill guys you come across here and there has never been as massive, and as noticable, as it is right now.
    Parry isn't useful though. I'd much rather have skillspeed, crit or det, which you find on strength accessories.
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  7. #47
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    Because Warriors doing the same is okay?

    And yes it is if you have the skill for it.
    debatable

    as a tank your survivability is pretty dependent on your healer's ability to, well, heal. if they are not good at healing damage as it comes in and have a difficult time predicting heavy spikes your survivability will decrease.

    the worse your healer is, the more value vitality will have. i mean, it's still a pretty solid stat when your healer is good, but it is even better when they are awful because it gives them a lot of slack to work with. but depending on who you play with, extra vit can largely be a waste of itemization, becoming a sort of optional comfort cushion that is there if you decide you need it.
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    Last edited by Delorean; 07-20-2015 at 11:23 AM.

  8. #48
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    Domnall Scarlett
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Have done Ravana EX in full STR stats and accessories.

    For DRK strength works also by giving you overall more mitigation via Soul Eater. As long as you don't get one or 2 shot, you will fare better due to the fact you are healing significantly more.
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