Is Perpetual Ray classified as magic damage?

[MeoTwister5]

Just needed a clarification. My recent experience in A4 with the tank buster seems like WARs are having a hard time dealing with it, PLDs are somewhere in the middle and I'm seeing DRKs having the easiest time getting through Phase 3. Reddit posts says it's magic damage, which would explain why DRKs have it the easiest due to their 60s CD magic reduction buffable by DA. I main a PLD and I tend to have trouble with the third perp ray. Can anyone with more experience confirm?

[Waliel]

It's magic.

[Kyros]

You aren't meant to solo tank it anyways. At least not the last ones. It is very clear Savage is going to require a Tank-swap midway.

Also you kind of have it backwards. WAR can deal with it best without blowing your "Dont kill me" CD (Holm/Hallow/Living), followed by DRK then PLD.

Regardless, on my team we don't take any chances. I take the first Two on my WAR while I still have IB+Thrillvalescence and IB+Vengeance, and my Co-tank (DRK) takes it for the third. I suppose a PLD can work Hallowed into the third without issues tho, making it "Best" if you want a single tank dealing with them (And assuming you don't get more than 3).

[SpookyGhost]

You aren't meant to solo tank it anyways. At least not the last ones. It is very clear Savage is going to require a Tank-swap midway.

This is sort of true, in that tank swapping is the best way to mitigate Perpetual Ray. I wrote up a CD rotation for DRK/WAR (can be mimicked with PLD/WAR) a bit ago that mitigates up to 6 sets:

1.) Shadowskin + Shadow Wall + Dark Mind + Conv
2.) Holmgang + Veng + Thrill + Conv + IB
3.) Living Dead + Conv
4.) Vengeance + Thrill + Conv + IB
5.) Shadowskin + Shadow Wall + Dark Mind + Conv
6.) Holmgang + Vengeance + Thrill + Conv + IB

NM you can pretty much solo tank him (as Realchucky said) due to the fact that you'll only see 2~3 Rays and the damage won't be that high. In Savage I'd recommend using the tank swap method to make the hits a lot easier to deal with.

e: Also I'm a full STR WAR, have had no problems with Perpetual Ray (or any of the damage) in NM. I think the fault doesn't lie in the accessories... ;V

[Jahaudant]

This is sort of true, in that tank swapping is the best way to mitigate Perpetual Ray. I wrote up a CD rotation for DRK/WAR (can be mimicked with PLD/WAR) a bit ago that mitigates up to 6 sets:



NM you can pretty much solo tank him (as Realchucky said) due to the fact that you'll only see 2~3 Rays and the damage won't be that high. In Savage I'd recommend using the tank swap method to make the hits a lot easier to deal with.

e: Also I'm a full STR WAR, have had no problems with Perpetual Ray (or any of the damage) in NM. I think the fault doesn't lie in the accessories... ;V

Just solo tank him with a DRK

1) DA Dark Mind + Shadowskin
2) DA Dark Mind + Shadow Wall
3) DA Dark Mind + Shadowskin

Enjoy 50% to 60% reduction on every tank buster.

[Fenral]

e: Also I'm a full STR WAR, have had no problems with Perpetual Ray (or any of the damage) in NM. I think the fault doesn't lie in the accessories... ;V

WAR's tank stance increases HP pool instead of defense, so a WAR with the same amount of HP as a PLD in VIT gear is 20% squishier, in addition to the lack of defensive cooldowns. It can be healed through, but you're basically asking other people (especially the healers, in a fight where they have much more to worry about than just you) to cover for your own inability to fulfill the primary duty of a tank, which is to take hits other Jobs can't.

Well there is truth in what he says, if you have to tank swap in A4 normal then your tanks will have a lot of issues in savage. Also you shouldn't have to rely on tank DPS in A4 (it is very easy to kill in full ilvl 170 and you overgear the floor at i180, and it drops I190).

I was taking a jab at how they couldn't survive a single Perpetual Ray. The tank swap happened when the other "tank" was tanking the floor. And I personally vouch for the skill of the healers, and even they couldn't keep them up.

[SpookyGhost]

WAR's tank stance increases HP pool instead of defense, so a WAR with the same amount of HP as a PLD in VIT gear is 20% squishier, in addition to the lack of defensive cooldowns. It can be healed through, but you're basically asking other people (especially the healers, in a fight where they have much more to worry about than just you) to cover for your own inability to fulfill the primary duty of a tank, which is to take hits other Jobs can't.

Lack... of... defensive... what?

IB for every Perpetual Ray + either Vengeance or Thrill + Conv, Equilibrium for every Perpetual Ray, Second Wind for every other Perpetual Ray, IB for soaking balls... you can even double IB for every Perpetual Ray if you want. A PLD should be tanking this fight in full STR too... the hardest hitting things should be mitigated and regardless of how much HP you have, you'll be taking the same amount of damage...

[Realchucky]

Really Kyros?
We solo Tank him and me as WHM can easy solo heal the PLD the hole fight even all tank busters incoming. Only thing what PLD pop is 40% Sentinal if he dont forget it. Also Hallow Ground he use for catching bubbles not for tank buster. Its simple normal mode... oO

[Kyros]

Really Kyros?
We solo Tank him and me as WHM can easy solo heal the PLD the hole fight even all tank busters incoming. Only thing what PLD pop is 40% Sentinal if he dont forget it. Also Hallow Ground he use for catching bubbles not for tank buster. Its simple normal mode... oO

My brain hurts reading this... why would you pop Hallow to catch bubbles? That's a total waste. You can control how much bubble damage you take trough pacing. You can even clemency trough bubbles. Don't waste HG on them, jeez. Use it for the third PR if you are using a PLD.

And my comment about tank swap is in preparation of Savage. It was a no-brainer if you've experienced Bahamut's Claw before. Right now we don't even get to the third PR, but if we do we swap simply because my Co-tank's CD's are all up and being wasted if we don't.

[Nague]

i just heal it with adlos, its not a problem on any tank in my experience.
You can start the last phase with full healer mana, no excuses.