Thoughts on Scholar changes and my thoughts on how to balance them.

[LutinaWolfstine]

Okay since launch i have played a scholar as my main and loved it.

just hit 60 and there are a few things that kinda got me mad with the changes they made so i figured i would come here and see what other people think.

Please note these are my thoughts on the class and they may be different from yours.

1st change Lustrate - use to be a 20% heal and i found that great and do understand them changing it to 600 with everyone's hit points going past the 10k mark how ever i think it still fails behind a white mage's cure 2 and since it is our danger button it could do with upping to 650.

2nd Broil kinda think its little unfair that we get a 170 well the summoner the dps roll only got a 120 not to add the mp cost of it out of trance is just stupid.

[LutinaWolfstine]

3rd Dissipation - Since the whole point of scholars is working with the fairy kinda makes no sense that they would have a skill to kill the fairy for such little return.

4th Fairy's okay so as we currently stand there basic heal is 900-950 from level 50 and does not scale up to 60 i would like to see SE make this heal about 1500


At the moment i think we will be a little bit behind White Mage dunno about ast as not leveled it yet.

anyway post your thoughts and lets see what you all think.

Don't get me wrong the other skills added are great and the mass Esuna the other fairy got along with the combined speed buff is great its worth using that fairy now but i will be sticking with eos until i have a gear score of 170 to keep healing little easier.

[lordparanoia]

I think that the only "broken" thing of SCH is the fairy atm. I mean, it seems that she has been nerfed or maybe is just bugged.
I'm ok with Lustrate because now also White Mage has a kind of Lustrate too, so emergency healing is not only in our hands.
Broils is so op, but it wastes a lot of mana so I think it's balanced.
Dissipation is ok, I mean... maybe there are moments where it can be useful, for example when fight is ending and you need some emergency lustrate + Indo + sacred soil and AF is on CD.
:3 I'm very happy about SCH in 3.0, ET, DP and Indomitability are wonderful. Broil too.

[fanservice]

1st change Lustrate - use to be a 20% heal and i found that great and do understand them changing it to 600 with everyone's hit points going past the 10k mark how ever i think it still fails behind a white mage's cure 2 and since it is our danger button it could do with upping to 650.

1 - It was brought up to 25% before heavensward
2 - You cannot compare lustrate to cure 2. Adloquium, sure
3 - With decent gear, it's far more effective at healing damage taken by anyone else that isn't the tank. I have 10k hp, and my lustrate heals me for 3.7k. Over 33% of my max HP.
4 - It can crit now

It still borders on OP for being a frontloaded instant burst healing ability off of the shared GCD. Even if it were to benefit me, it's not necessary to buff this ability.

2nd Broil kinda think its little unfair that we get a 170 well the summoner the dps roll only got a 120 not to add the mp cost of it out of trance is just stupid.

-SCH core attacks are made up of a wopping 5 buttons, unless you want to count shadowflare and aero.
-WHMs have stone 3 at 210 potency, the ability to DOT a crowd with aero 3, and they still have holy.
-No accuracy on healer gear anymore. We're prone to miss again, even in 4 mans.
-I do pity SMNs a bit in that regard, despite the fact they have fester, painflare, deathflare, tri-disaster, raging strikes, and pets that attack.

Broil is less likely to need 'rebalancing' compared to ruin 3. I'm pretty sure they intended for healers to be able to solo without dying of old age.

3rd Dissipation - Since the whole point of scholars is working with the fairy kinda makes no sense that they would have a skill to kill the fairy for such little return.

This ability is confirmed crap, and generally not worth actionbar space, yes.

4th Fairy's okay so as we currently stand there basic heal is 900-950 from level 50 and does not scale up to 60 i would like to see SE make this heal about 1500

Heals for ~1300 at ilvl175-180

At the moment i think we will be a little bit behind White Mage dunno about ast as not leveled it yet.

Doesn't matter. Apples and oranges.

WHMs don't have the MP sustain, group DPS support, or consistent OGCD emergency heal bombs SCH brings, and SCHs are kings of all 3 right now.

[LutinaWolfstine]

I see sounds like i need to get my gear score up then to see how it plays then currently sat at 143 i think

[Cynfael]

SCH is fine aside from Dissipation being mostly useless and fairy heals lagging noticeably behind the curve that the SCH's direct heals appear to follow.

I wouldn't be too sad about SMNs' Ruin III considering that it's only meant to be used as filler during Dreadwyrm Trance. The other goodies in their kit more than offset the comparatively low potency of this one nuke.

[fanservice]

I see sounds like i need to get my gear score up then to see how it plays then currently sat at 143 i think

As far as a healer hierarchy goes, SCHs appear to be in a position of being irreplaceable; there's no good reason to not have a SCH in your group regardless if it's a group that has content on farm, or a progression group.

There are reasons to bench a WHM for an AST, or vice-versa, but a SCH? No. Doing so is just a disservice to an 8-man group.

[ckc22]

My perspective:

1) The lustrate change is a side-grade at worst and it's here to stay, I don't think there are really any issues with it either.
2) Potency isn't everything. Summoner has a lot of other options for damage - and as you said, in DWT Ruin III is actually 132 potency at the cost of Ruin I. Personally I'm thankful that it doesn't take me ages to kill world trash.
3) Dissipation is awful and I could write paragraphs about why. The fact they thought this ability was overpowered is laughable.
4) Fairy scaling is broken. Either SE needs to fix it or just man up and tell us that they nerfed it. Embrace should pretty much = the healing component of Adlo as it used to.

[dragoelete]

My perspective:

1) The lustrate change is a side-grade at worst and it's here to stay, I don't think there are really any issues with it either.
2) Potency isn't everything. Summoner has a lot of other options for damage - and as you said, in DWT Ruin III is actually 132 potency at the cost of Ruin I. Personally I'm thankful that it doesn't take me ages to kill world trash.
3) Dissipation is awful and I could write paragraphs about why. The fact they thought this ability was overpowered is laughable.
4) Fairy scaling is broken. Either SE needs to fix it or just man up and tell us that they nerfed it. Embrace should pretty much = the healing component of Adlo as it used to.

they said the original ability was OP but if you look at it you could see why it would have been op with but a few rather small changes...

[Tranquil]

SCH needs zero reworking, it's absolutely ridiculously strong right now. If anything, they need to tweak Dissipation a little bit, but I can live with one subpar skill.