being new and @ level 50 is killing my interest

[416to305]

Yeah but in fairness the new classes are exactly that, new. It's not like anyone who is an existing player is getting a huge advantage, we still had to level other classes to it. I'd almost prefer they started anywhere though and worked like any other, from 1 to 60 vs starting at 30, just that you'd need the expansion to unlock them.

Regarding the cut scenes, err this is kind of a mixed bag. While I get it that people want to watch them, you have to realize that 99% of the people in there are in it from roulette and are running them for tomes or exp, where you only get it after completing the dungeon so getting in and out asap is the goal. So while it's nice to pause and let people watch them, it's a major waste of time when everyone has seen them already and some dungeons like CM have a cut scene every few minutes. I never watch them and watch them later in the inn just to be considerate to the other players, because at the end of the day you're the anomaly, and I'd just feel too bad sitting there watching them knowing there's 7 other people standing around unable to do anything while they wait for me. It also prevents us healers from putting Protect or Stoneskin on you while you're viewing them, as it can't be cast on a player watching cutscenes. There's none that are so critical you have to watch them, it's just as easy to watch later. This though has nothing to do with the expansion, it's just the inherent nature of the game. You'll probably find it more an issue now though as before at least new players gave a tomes bonus, so if someone asked nicely most people don't mind waiting while they watch them, but now there's really no incentive to be in there for long.

Either way though, only a few are required to do the main story, not sure why everyone acts like you're forced to do crystal tower and other things that are optional. You have to do the primals, which you only have to do once and are super fast, and then just a few dungeons like Keeper of the Lake. Everything else is optional. I don't mean this in a rude way, but honestly get in a FC and people will be glad to help out if you ask if anyone wants to run a dungeon with you taking their time and letting you view the scenes. If you just ask even in duty finder if people mind, most won't, even if it is annoying. It's the people that don't ask and just sit there watching them that pisses everyone off to the point that most won't wait and then you'll be watching the boss fights from locked outside of the room. Learned that lesson in one early level dungeon the hard way. Since then no viewing cutscenes for me unless they are the ones at the end.

When I first started playing I was in the same boat, even posted on here saying wtf I keep trying to view cutscenes and when they are over people have already started the boss locking me out. However now that I've been at it for a long time, I realize that it's not really being fair expecting people to sit and wait, when they are trying to run the dungeon over and over as fast as possible.

[Jynx]

While I get it that people want to watch them, you have to realize that...

Let me fix this for you.

While I get it that people want to finish their roulette quickly, they signed up for a story dungeon and know full well the possibillity of any of the several other members they are paired up with may be new. Man I hate the whole concept of the duty finder to be such a toxic addition to the game. Convient as hell but toxic all the same.

[Lucidbro]

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Well you also have to understand that people here are saying "FF has always been a story based game", "Don't complain if you don't appreciate the story experience". Well, the reality of it is that people don't even let you do that. And, if you're not there to experience the story like everyone here says, it's just mindless grind, since you get nothing of value out of it, especially since all of the mechanics have been nerfed and you're stuck in there with a party that's greatly overgeared for it. And no, there are cutscenes that you can only view in the dungeon, for example you won't find out what happens with Nero at all, if you don't watch the cutscene in the dungeon. I've personally never had an issue with taking the time to watch cutscenes but it's not a stance that many share.

[justinjarjar]

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as you have probably already been told that is only two dungeons and SE has learned from it's mistakes there. You can A. do the dung and watch cutscenes at the inn or B. just watch cutscenes.

[LunaHoshino]

as you have probably already been told that is only two dungeons and SE has learned from it's mistakes there. You can A. do the dung and watch cutscenes at the inn or B. just watch cutscenes.

Or C, go with a group of friends who will let you watch cutscenes. That's what friends and FCs are for.

[Wobble]

I'll answer this question.

Is this normal for this games community?

Yes, yes it is.... I started in 1.0 and then with ARR beta and everything was sunshine and rainbows. Then came ilevel and speed runs and everything became toxic unfortunately.

[Lasair_Shiorai]

Some friends of mine are in the same boat sort of. They both got the game and the expansion and just got their characters to lvl 50 and just finished the 2.0 storyline. But they both want to play the new classes (Astrologist and Mechanist) but are annoyed they can't until they reach Ishgard. I understand the frustration about not being able to get to play the new classes but I told them this whole thing is storyline locked. It wouldn't make any sense to reach Ishgard before the events of 2.0-2.5. Honestly if you have no interest in the story then you should probably un-sub. The only thing I kind of don't agree on was locking out the advanced classes. Still have them locked until you reach lvl 50 but not area locked.

[Rin_Kuroi]

There is nothing like this on the main page. Heck, even when I click on the "buy now" I see nothing like it. I'm sure there is something vague buried somewhere in there but you're really grasping at straws if you think that's an adequate warning.

As another player pointed out, the warning I was thinking of was in the early access section on the main page. That's a pretty poor place for it. I concede the point and apologize.

[Rin_Kuroi]

But new players can't? You not seeing the double standard and thinking you somehow deserve more than a new player is part of why you don't comprehend what this thread is about.

It has nothing to do with what I deserve. It has to do with older content preparing players for newer stuff. The MSQ isn't just there to deliver story. It's there to make sure players see a certain number of trails and dungeons to prepare for the later content. It's there to teach you group content.

[Kyonika]

This is a lie. Neither the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Crystal Tower or any of the Extreme Primals are required to finish the main scenario. Only a few 4-man dungeons (Qarn in 2.1, Snowcloak in 2.4 and Keeper of the Lake in 2.5, I believe) and each story-mode primal fight (Good King Moggle Mog XII, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva), as well as Steps of Faith. None of that is high level raid content.

Thank you for the correction. That's reassuring to know.

I was speaking from a point of ignorance, 'cuz I only know what others have said: "back in teh day, we had ta beat all deez dungoens, da HM n EX primals, deez raidz and stuffs and grind out tomes and zodiacs and weapoonz like we grindin' on da dance flo yo -- So you gotta too, and you gonna like it! ... An' den we gonna paaty like its yo birthday!" lol

Though, after completing my MNK and talking to my trainer's geek friend, I actually want to do Crystal Tower. I'm kinda looking forward to that - but after I get my healer/dps up to par. -- cuz my MNK apparently loves the AoE circles too much.