Defending monks

[Leonus]

NIN, DRG and MNK was pretty equal ...

Mmm,

Well... before 2.45 drg was in mnks shadow. At the time (when I had all 3 at max) I always did more dps on my mnk than drg or nin(when equally geared), and drg at the time only had the piercing debuff. I mean, there isn't anything wrong with the order shifting between the 3 melee from expansion to expansion. All the dps are close enough that you can play what you want.

Also, not every group will have a drk. War and pld are still tanks to consider for whatever content you're taking on.

[Craiger]

Mmm,

Well... before 2.45 drg was in mnks shadow. At the time (when I had all 3 at max) I always did more dps on my mnk than drg or nin(when equally geared), and drg at the time only had the piercing debuff. I mean, there isn't anything wrong with the order shifting between the 3 melee from expansion to expansion. All the dps are close enough that you can play what you want.

Also, not every group will have a drk. War and pld are still tanks to consider for whatever content you're taking on.

Before 2.45, yes, but we have to compare the state things were in just before the expansion to how it is now, no point in comparing how it was before that.

Like I said, all melee were close to each other just before the expansion, but then they clearly added more DPS to DRG, while just trying to "fix" some downtime issues for MNK. The DPS difference is actually quite big, considering there isn't any reason DRG should be above.

Not every group have DRK in them, but it still makes DK less of a necessity for many groups. If having a DRK and DRG in your group gives you higher DPS than other alternatives, then you will see many groups going for that, because DPS is extremely important when progressing in raids.

It mostly the way the DPS difference was created that I don't like... They should have added more skills that increase DPS for MNK too, and for NIN. It's like they made changes 100% for downtime, even though they clearly fall behind on DPS. They even decreased the potency on the "big hitting" new abilities that MNK gets (compared to how it was in the France event)

It's not okay for them to just give a job higher DPS because they're the focus of the expansion... You need to keep it as balanced as possible.