Defending monks

[Sen_Terrechant]

I mean technically DRG has a higher single target potential if they can preform their super super strict rotation and nail every position (Which i think the math is something like .7 seconds to nail dem positions before its a loss). So shouldnt they have a higher cap at the moment when MNKs are nearly the same they always have been?

MNKs still pull amazing damage, and have more tools then ever to keep that damage up. Plus they are right now the only class other then BLM with unlimited resources (Though they do take a DPS hit to do that, but seriously, unlimited resources is a big deal)

[Craiger]

Maybe your just bad at dpsing with monks plain and simple

I out dps alot of dragoons easy with no effort and lower ilv wats your point

By that awful logic, I would assume MNKs are OP and needs a huge nerf... because most people I have played with doesn't come close to me on DPS(unless the fight is really bad for MNK).

DRGs do higher DPS on a dummy, and while MNK have Chakra to get during real fights, we're talking about very few Forbidden Chakra usages during a fight, and it won't make up for the gap between DRG and MNK.

There is no point in discussing whether someone here is good enough or not, because we're all comparing DRG and MNK played perfectly, which is what you should be doing.

[Hakmatic]

This dude again. Dragoon is better, plain and simple bro. I dont care how you slice it. Take it from someone who plays both classes to their max.

[OneWingedSora]

As someone who plays with some of the best melees in the game, I can safely say DRG is better than MNK right now. There are no ifs and buts, DRG is just plain better at the moment. You need to group with better people bro.

[Oboros]

Wait do monks do less than ninja now? It was my understanding and from what I've seen at least on dummy dps was DRG > MNK > NIN

[Dami]

The multi-posting is strong in this one.

As for the OP, I don't see what your point is. Whether they q.q or not doesn't change the fact that drg has more versatility and higher ST-DPS than monks. Namely, a combo with no positional requirement with high potency, 2 DoT GCDs with high potency, easier to maintain buffs such as heavy thrust or BoTD(goes up to 30secs) compared to GL3.

Without a shadow of doubt an equally skilled DRG will have no problem out-dpsing an equally skilled monk.

Wait do monks do less than ninja now? It was my understanding and from what I've seen at least on dummy dps was DRG > MNK > NIN

Pretty sure Ninjas and Monks deal roughly the same DPS now based on dummy parses. But ninjas rely less on positional except for a few skills so you can imagine them doing better in certain boss phases. But that's all I can go on based on experience since I haven't touched ninja yet.

[Oboros]

Yeah from what I've seen the diff is around 20-50 not that huge but monks do slightly more best nin parse I've seen was around 1170 while monks consistently hitting 1200 mark or close to it.

Also no love for ninja if monks get to complain why can't Nins who are arguably weaker xP.

[Atreides]

I don't think they will give monk anything to push the group DPS, we just need to wait for the next expansion "Wrath of Rhalgr" 4.0 where monks will be the main attraction.
Heavensward is the Dragoons turn to shine. :P
With that being said, Dragoons were sitting in the Monks shadow for almost the whole duration of ARR.

[Leonus]

Jake the dog and Fin the human...

Mmm, adventure time.

[Leonus]

I can kind of see where you are coming from, but at the same time, being "forced" to bring a mnk for DK was already kind of... "wrong" I guess. Especially considering mnks were the highest dps.

They should be closer together, BUT from what I have seen on parses, everyone was within a decent range of each other. I haven't seen to many lately comparing the 3, so I'm not 100% sure anymore.

I think, drk/drg and war/mnk with the other melee being nin (though the others work) will be a thing.

We'll see in savage though I guess. I guess, give a bit more time. If it's a problem I'm sure SE will either nerf drg or buff nin/mnk. If anything, I think the changes would be minor.