Thread: Recipe changes in 1.19

Yoshida has recently posted another follow-up to help alleviate any further concerns regarding the upcoming recipe changes. It really simplifies the solution and clarifies the issue, so please take a look!

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Hi all, Producer / Director Yoshida here.

Again, I would like to apologize for the confusion that the list of recipes has caused. Let me take a moment to try to explain some things.

First, I believe the confusion was caused by the name “Items not Used in New Recipes” and the content of the list.

To clarify, “Items not Used in New Recipes” is a list of items that will not be used in any of the new recipes implemented with patch 1.19.

Content wise, I believe the following caused the confusion.

1. The list contained materials that may be used in high-end recipes in the future updates (patch 1.20 and beyond).
2. The list contained materials that were used in current recipes that remained untouched in patch 1.19.
3. The list itself contained multiple errors.

Let me provide an explanation for these 3 points.

#3: This was already pointed out by the community and they were addressed accordingly.

#1: We posted a topics announcement yesterday which contained a list of items that may be used in the future updates.

#2: We will be following up with another topics announcement regarding this matter. Below is a summary of the announcement.

Listed below are a list of items that will continue to be used in accessory, throwing weapons, alchemy, and cooking-related recipes in patch 1.19.

Yellow Copper Ore: Deleted in patch 1.20 to avoid players from getting stuck with a quest
Mesa-red Cotton Cloth: Deleted in patch 1.20 to avoid players from getting stuck with a quest
Raven-black Velveteen: Deleted in 1.20 to avoid players from getting stuck with a quest
Biast Scales
Dormourse Pelt
Puk Wing
Bat Wing
Imp Wing
Ahriman Wing
Tarantula
Black Scorpion
White Scorpion
Grass Viper
Scale Glue
Wing Glue
Bronze Francisca Head
Brass Francisca Head
Silver Francisca Head
Iron Francisca Head
Ash Francisca Haft
Bronze Javelin Head
Brass Javelin Head
Silver Javelin Head
Iron Javelin Head
Bronze Gorge Hook
Cock Fletchings
Bronze Nugget
Iron Nugget
Copper Nugget
Brass Nugget
Silver Nugget
Brass Wire
Silver Rivets
Silver Plate
Mythril Nugget
Electrum Plate
Electrum Nugget
Eye Drops
Maddening Powder
Ironhide Powder
Disabling Powder
Soothing Salts
Smothering Powder
Breathing Salts
Reviving Salts
Silencing Powder
Poison Powder
Thickening Salts
Sleeping Powder
Stimulating Salts
Reanimating Salts
Ironwill Powder
Blinding Powder
Speaking Salts
Paralyzing Powder
Beehive Chip
Peach Branch
Cherry Branch

In conjunction with the upcoming topics announcement, we will be removing the items listed above from “Items not Used in New Recipes” and change the name of the list to “Items that are not used in patch 1.19.”

Even then there will be a factor that may confuse the community.
For example, the item “Scale Glue” will continue to be used in patch 1.19 so that item will be removed from “Items not Used in New Recipes.” However, you’ll notice that the item is listed under “Items no Longer Dropped by Enemies.” Some players may think “How am I supposed to obtain the now?” In reality, this just means that the “Scale Glue” will no longer be dropped by an enemy, but it can still be crafted with the current recipe.

I will continue to think of better ways to avoid any confusion within the community.

I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause. Please bear with us while we think of better ways to make the list less confusing. We will continue to make adjustments up until patch day and make sure everyone is comfortable with the changes. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

Nooooo Weekend work~~ D:

/comfort Bayohne

Thanks for the hard work!

Uhhmm. Now I am more confused than ever. I thought I understood how this was all going to work before. The way i understood it is these items will be usable with the old recipes for a while longer then the old recipes and these items like nuggets would no longer be usable. If thats the case then say that. No need to make this complicated.

Just say something along the lines of "This list of items will continue to be usable with old recipes until a future patch removes the old recipes and makes this list of items useless."

Originally Posted by YuriSan

YES!
This is exactly the people i am talking about that will be the ones that are happy with this update.
People that dont like crafting.
Chances are u still wont craft much after the patch either.

Previous recipe for Thunderstorm Axe:

Silver Ingot
Undyed Canvas
Brimstone
Scale Glue
Storm Axe Head
Maple Axe Haft
Silver Axe Butt

New recipe for Thunderstorm Axe: (R46 weapon lol)

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

Enough said...

Would it really have been so bad to make the recipe:

Steel Axe Head
Walnut Lumber
Silver Axe Butt

Why could they have possibly felt the need to remove all semblance of crafting from crafting. They might as well have just gone back to FFXIs throw some stuff in a magic ball and hope it works method. Recipes needed to be simplified by methods like using Fully crafted items and adding to them to upgrade into better versions of themselves while removing excessive parts. Instead they decided they needed to remove all the pieces, most often used for leveling, that could possibly make it appear as though you actually are making something. The concept of a person making an item directly from raw materials is absurd and heavily detracts from the Crafting Classes. As it was said before by literally hundreds of people. The problem with crafting is not the recipes it's the UI.

Simplification would have been fine. Gutting the system will only make things worse.

Originally Posted by Kiote

Would it really have been so bad to make the recipe:

Steel Axe Head
Walnut Lumber
Silver Axe Butt

Why could they have possibly felt the need to remove all semblance of crafting from crafting. They might as well have just gone back to FFXIs throw some stuff in a magic ball and hope it works method. Recipes needed to be simplified by methods like using Fully crafted items and adding to them to upgrade into better versions of themselves while removing excessive parts. Instead they decided they needed to remove all the pieces, most often used for leveling, that could possibly make it appear as though you actually are making something. The concept of a person making an item directly from raw materials is absurd and heavily detracts from the Crafting Classes. As it was said before by literally hundreds of people. The problem with crafting is not the recipes it's the UI.

Simplification would have been fine. Gutting the system will only make things worse.

wow i didnt realize it was being simplified to that extent.
i was actually waiting for 1.19 to try my hand at crafting. that synth above doesnt even make much sense to me, there are no parts involved in making things at all it seems anymore.

the undyed canvas and glue i think can totally be ditched, but the axe head and stuff i feel are kind of necessary.