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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I'm sorry guys but: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    *Ahem* Please.. just let it go, the changes are in! enjoy them as much as you can like the rest of us! wooooooo *Parties* Over the best changes to crafting ever!!! Thank you Dev Team for the hard work put into these changes.
    what is your problem man? i already have my crafts mostly leveled so the changes do not affect me much. i'm pointing out that the issues are more than just the recipes in crafting. the people that did not lke crafting before due to the standard bashing of synths and the boring mini game are still going to dislike it for the same reasons. i'll be busy just making items and making millions off people just like you anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    what is your problem man? i already have my crafts mostly leveled so the changes do not affect me much. i'm pointing out that the issues are more than just the recipes in crafting. the people that did not lke crafting before due to the standard bashing of synths and the boring mini game are still going to dislike it for the same reasons. i'll be busy just making items and making millions off people just like you anyways.
    Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.

    I understand you are concerned for us and are thinking only for our well being and ejoyment, I thank you for that. But please, I didn't ask you to advocate on my behalf to SE. So stop and let me see for myself if I will like it or not. As opposed to you, I understand SE might do anything they feel like is right to this game and my role is only to see what they come up with and then provide feedback. They are the game developers not me, I'm just a tester and rest assured, if I dont like the changes I will provide feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.
    That is perfectly fine. i dont like gathering so i dont gather...
    Soooo many people are crafting. it's not like crafting is something that 90% of the population didn't like.
    Also the mindless timesinking crafting isnt the thing that is changing...
    So that aspect of it will stay the same so..
    Whatever tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.

    I understand you are concerned for us and are thinking only for our well being and ejoyment, I thank you for that. But please, I didn't ask you to advocate on my behalf to SE. So stop and let me see for myself if I will like it or not. As opposed to you, I understand SE might do anything they feel like is right to this game and my role is only to see what they come up with and then provide feedback. They are the game developers not me, I'm just a tester and rest assured, if I dont like the changes I will provide feedback.
    but see that's the point. i was not trying to speak for you or anyone else, but you come on attacking me. i was not saying recipe changes were not needed and they may have been needed even to this extent. i am glad that those of you like them. i am not a fan to the drastic extent they went with them, but some modification was needed.

    ALL i was saying is that the majority of issues that have been stated about crafting were not about this one issue. i heard more complaints about the boring mini game and the standard bashing while watching tv as more common issues. this was my concern. the people that didn't like crafting for those reasons are still not having those issues worked on. if the majority complains about those areas and they work on something for a smaller portion first that gives me concerns that the more common complaint isn't going to get addressed at all.

    maybe that is a little more of an explanation of why i said the people that didn't like it before will likely still not like it after. i was not talking about all, but just the majority i have seen in game and in the forums complaining about crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    but see that's the point. i was not trying to speak for you or anyone else, but you come on attacking me.
    I mentioned this in another thread for another response you made. You seem to have a sense of persecution. I did not attack you in any of my posts. Yes, I had to laugh to your posts about what you think about the old-recpies and the new ones, but also also said I was sorry right after, like friends do when making fun of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I mentioned this in another thread for another response you made. You seem to have a sense of persecution. I did not attack you in any of my posts. Yes, I had to laugh to your posts about what you think about the old-recpies and the new ones, but also also said I was sorry right after, like friends do when making fun of each other.
    yeah, sorry when i say attacking it is just a figure of speech. i do not mean it as you are actually coming to my house abusing the wife and forcing me to watch lol.

    when i say attacking me it's more along of the lines of that i have an opinion and just because you disagree with it you decide to come and make fun of the other person's point instead of actually discussing it with them. yes, making fun of someone's views is in a way attacking the person. if i make fun of your religious, political, social, family, or moral beliefs i am attacking you in that same figure of speech translation.

    you will see me make that statement more than once just because it's a figurative and not a literal translation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    yeah, sorry when i say attacking it is just a figure of speech. i do not mean it as you are actually coming to my house abusing the wife and forcing me to watch lol.

    when i say attacking me it's more along of the lines of that i have an opinion and just because you disagree with it you decide to come and make fun of the other person's point instead of actually discussing it with them. yes, making fun of someone's views is in a way attacking the person. if i make fun of your religious, political, social, family, or moral beliefs i am attacking you in that same figure of speech translation.

    you will see me make that statement more than once just because it's a figurative and not a literal translation.
    I understood what you meant by attacking. But realize you are still saying "this" was better "that" way. when in three days the changes are in and there is no going back until everything has been tested by the players. As I said in my original post, let it go. Test the new system and then provide feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikozaemon View Post
    Thanks for the 5 ifrits canes Yoshi i can build a life raft and use them to float to another mmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I understood what you meant by attacking. But realize you are still saying "this" was better "that" way. when in three days the changes are in and there is no going back until everything has been tested by the players. As I said in my original post, let it go. Test the new system and then provide feedback.
    yes, i do know what you mean. i'm going to test it anyways since i am full time crafting and gathering until at least 1.20. i'm waiting on the battle system to get completed before i go back and finish my last few classes.

    if you go by the history on these forums if you do not say something to voice your concerns before the changes though you will be constantly flamed if you say anything bad about it after. if you don't believe me look at the battle changes for example. let myself or anyone else say anything bad about it and see how quickly they get flamed.
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