Thread: Recipe changes in 1.19

Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Dark, You're not grounding your explanations in reality.

The truth is when I first started crafting I did make things and I ranked up at the same time.

Cotton Cowls got me through my first ranks as weaver. Rings, circlets and chokers got me up to r15ish goldsmith in no time. I never made 500 of anything.

However all that started breaking down once I got higher, because of the sheer amount of parts that I couldn't make because my rank wasn't high enough or that I didn't have access to the materials. I had hit the point where grinding uselessly was necessary to rank up because crafting, actually making things, was no longer possible!

Had I been ABLE I would have still made things and ranked up. I'm glad they've begun to fix this problem.

you are who is not grounded in reality. 12>1 so if it takes you 12 synths to make the same amount of an item that one synth did before that's 12x as long. what part of that is so hard to understand. my 6 year old can figure that out for christ sakes.

you can fabircate all you want, but i have made items the entire time i was crafting. there has never been a point in which i could not make items.

here i'll take the line battle classes love to use for not liking the new battle system "YOU WERE JUST PLAYING IT WORNG"

Originally Posted by Aenarion

you never made 500s of anything because you simply haven't gotten to the ranks where that happens.

you prefer to rank up using finished items, that's not very practical in the current/old system. You may be able to do so in the new system, but the question is whether that will be comparable to the parts-grind that exist in the current system for people who doesn't have a strange attachment to making finished item to rank crafting.

making finished items to rank crafting is just as intelligent to saying i want to go grind nm's to rank my battle class. grinding parts for crafting is absolutely no different than grinding mobs to rank a battleclass. there is no difference, but these anti crafting people are actually destroying a good system. yes, the system needed improvements, but this is pathetic.

You can actually rank up Goldsmith from rank 13 to 20 atm just making Brass Earrings. At rank 13 they're pretty tough to make but can give up to 900sp EACH (Which is completely nuts!), if it starts slowing down around rank 17 you can make Brass rings which give a little bit more SP than Brass earrings at that rank.

Not bad for something that only needs 2 brass nuggets, and the off-chance of making a +1 version helps compliment your own equipment if your battle class is around the same level

Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Yoshida has said that he has plans for Alchemists and Culinarians, but it won't be until after 1.19.

This is just so uncool. Lets wait on cooks who need a million mats to make anything and make the least profit. Yeah I get it.

Originally Posted by Aenarion

you never made 500s of anything because you simply haven't gotten to the ranks where that happens.

you prefer to rank up using finished items, that's not very practical in the current/old system. You may be able to do so in the new system, but the question is whether that will be comparable to the parts-grind that exist in the current system for people who doesn't have a strange attachment to making finished item to rank crafting.

Well, like I said, we don't know. But here's what I do know: When I have an over supply of items in my inventory, I'll look at the recipes on a website and see what I can make out of what I have and still get good SP. The truth is there are lots of recipes in the current system that are good to grind on and produce finished products. They're just so INEFFICIENT and that was what got in the way. My gear give-aways in the Linkshell were quite fun and I liked doing it. I was able to then sell what I had left over for a good profit in the wards.

The recipes changes will allow me to do this a lot more. Meaning, I will get the same SP making finished items as I did on grinding the useless parts. It doesn't mean that I will make 100 of the SAME item. It will mean that I can make a lot more finished things for the same SP as making 100s of parts with no drop in efficiency.

you are who is not grounded in reality. 12>1 so if it takes you 12 synths to make the same amount of an item that one synth did before that's 12x as long. what part of that is so hard to understand

I'm not sure what recipe you are referring to. However, this really sounds like the current system where it takes half a dozen parts from all kinds of different classes and levels to make one item.

you can fabircate all you want, but i have made items the entire time i was crafting. there has never been a point in which i could not make items.

Hm... but you didn't grind on those finished items did you? No, you think that's an awful idea. You can make items all through the time you're leveling crafting but you can't do it efficiently. That's why you don't do it.

I have all my craft ranks to 35 and I still couldn't make an r38 Heavy Iron Lance. I had to ask for help from 2 crafters (a BSM for the head and a CRP for the completion). And I had to buy the wing glue off someone else because the ingredients are annoying to get.

In the new system: Wing Glue has been eliminated. I could make Iron Lances for the whole LS if I wanted to.

Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Should have simply delayed the whole change then I assume?

No thanks.

I have a right to be dissapointed I did not say not to hook everyone else up. If you were a 50 cook/alch you would be unhappy too. (cook and alch are my two crafts)

Originally Posted by lenn1

This reminds me of when they changed the leve system so you couldn't fail them on purpose. People were freaking out and demanding for alternate ways to gain sp at that speed or they'll rage quit. We're still leveling at a decent pace and i don't think anyone is even bothered by it anymore.

Over time people will accept almost anything. Look at society in general. things we dont bat an eye at today would have given the general population heart attacks back in the 50s.