Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
Dark, You're not grounding your explanations in reality.

The truth is when I first started crafting I did make things and I ranked up at the same time.

Cotton Cowls got me through my first ranks as weaver. Rings, circlets and chokers got me up to r15ish goldsmith in no time. I never made 500 of anything.

However all that started breaking down once I got higher, because of the sheer amount of parts that I couldn't make because my rank wasn't high enough or that I didn't have access to the materials. I had hit the point where grinding uselessly was necessary to rank up because crafting, actually making things, was no longer possible!

Had I been ABLE I would have still made things and ranked up. I'm glad they've begun to fix this problem.
you never made 500s of anything because you simply haven't gotten to the ranks where that happens.

you prefer to rank up using finished items, that's not very practical in the current/old system. You may be able to do so in the new system, but the question is whether that will be comparable to the parts-grind that exist in the current system for people who doesn't have a strange attachment to making finished item to rank crafting.