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  1. #341
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    Neptune's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    I agree. I was really irritated it wasn't mentioned in the original recipe changes post. Cause I knew it was mentioned weeks ago, but I wanted final confirmation on it. Plus, it's just bad for newer players/players on break who craft and haven't seen that dev post a while ago regarding it. Resulting in them scurrying about trying to exhaust or convert their materials only to find out they never needed to do it til 1.20.
    Lol, your sig. That is amazing.
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    atm iam more worried about the QA,then anything
    it looks like beta -> release,all over again, this change is overpushed,and not beeing talked to us first.
    best example , ether,they didnt even notice ,that they remove the resources for ether.
    there are way more items of that kind,where it doesnt fit, and if mobs dont drop it anymore,it would be no help,if alches still could use the old recipes..

    エーテルが作成できなくなってしまう件について、開発チームに報告しました。
    プークの翼については、1.19に間に合うよう早急にドロップしなくなるアイテムから、
    除外するよう対応を行いますとのことです。ご報告ありがとうございました。
    I have reported the above to the dev team.
    For Puk Wings they will make quick change so item is removed from the list of items that will be removed to make it with 1.19 patch. Thank you for reporting.
    simple said, they found one item, but if not pointed to,they miss many other
    this patch wont be helpful, but hey... they have to stick on time,instead of thinking all thru,right?
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  3. #343
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    Eldaena Vonxandria
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    I posted this on another thread briefly, but I will reiterate here. These changes seem a bit odd to me. First and foremost they are not updating/adding new recipes to alchemy and culinary at the same time as these said changes are beginning to take place. Ontop of that, it appears several items from alchemy are becoming...obsolete?

    In the list of items now being used in new recipes, several items are not going to be used. Dyes of course, but also things like horns, scales, wings, glues etc. To compound the issue, these items also won't be dropping from mobs either. Then you also will not be able to use powders, stainsands, salts, fine sands, etc.

    What exactly will alchemists be making to rank up? Also, they are drastically lowering the prices of foods from the npcs. To the point they may or may not rival the prices in the marketplace itself. Disappointment aside that they aren't doing these classes recipe changes yet, they both will also have no hand in the materia process.

    I'm just really confused why these two classes continue to get the short end of the stick here. Will meager food sales and shards really be equivalent to the tons of gear and such that will be coming along the way? With the materia system also coming, weapon sales and so on will also be going up I would imagine.

    I guess I'm just not sure how to think of this all. I thought alot of the recipe changes were going to be based more on these classes due to the difficulty / item demand to level them. Was it just so complex that they had to put it off?
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  4. #344
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    I'm assuming Alchemy and Cooking will need more work to figure out. He did say the changes would come to those 2 jobs - they just need more time (although I wish it was in this update too).

    And they're clearly trying to make 'grinding' prohibitively expensive or bridge synths difficult to find which may mean dedicating your leves to a craft. I was making 25k per leve reset doing as many bsm leves as I could for r48-50 (bout 5-8 leves)

    Have they said anything about market wards? I mean with all the items being obsoleted it'd be nice for the wards to have a different colored text for the items that are being phased out (like red colored font or something).
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  5. #345
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    I think Velveteen has be re-scaled for rank 20's so it goes

    Hempen > Cotton > Velveteen

    now with no canvas inbetween.

    Seriously who would want to wear something made of canvas anyways?
    It compliments my burlap undergarments
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  6. #346
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    Arc Jurado
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    So, what about Black Pearl items? Blacklip Oyster is listed as one of the items no longer used in any new recipes. Without the Oyster you can't get the pearl and thus without the pearl the Black Pearl items can't be made. Unless the Black Pearls are just going to drop like the Uncultured ones do.
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  7. #347
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    I'm actually Glad they are not doing ALC in this patch. These changes are going to be devastating to crafters and ALC is my main. They need to put in a lot of work to ensure Potions, Ethers and Poisons are actually useful. It's not like there recipes were unreasonable. The biggest fix alchemy needs is an XP overhaul. Most things simple enough to grind gave very little XP for most of the grind. And turning Fish to sand is not exactly awesome..
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    i dont want to live on this planet anymore.
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  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I'm actually Glad they are not doing ALC in this patch. These changes are going to be devastating to crafters and ALC is my main. They need to put in a lot of work to ensure Potions, Ethers and Poisons are actually useful. It's not like there recipes were unreasonable. The biggest fix alchemy needs is an XP overhaul. Most things simple enough to grind gave very little XP for most of the grind. And turning Fish to sand is not exactly awesome..
    the only problem i have with them not doing alchemy in this patch is alot of their high level items are being removed. with them not adding new recipes at all it seems there will be a big void left, but i will find out.
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    Greetings everyone! Yoshida made a post recently that addresses some of the concerns that have been brought up here so I wanted to make sure you all saw it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Hi all, Producer / Director Yoshida here.

    First off, I would like to apologize for the confusion that the large scale recipe revamp has caused.
    We identified the errors that the community has pointed out and addressed them accordingly.
    The items listed below will continue to be obtainable even after patch 1.19.

    - Puk Wing
    - Bad Wing
    - Biast Scales
    - Drake Scales
    - Dormouse Pelt
    - Imp Wing
    - Ahriman Wing

    In addition, we identified a few recipes that may create a disadvantage for the players so we are currently in the process of getting those fixed.

    We are currently working on compiling a list of items that will no longer be obtainable after patch 1.19, but will be re-implemented in the future.

    To make sure everyone is aware of these statements, we will be preparing a topics announcement that will explain the situation in detail.

    Please wait a little longer until the announcement is posted.
    We appreciate all the feedback from our customers. I would be honored if you would continue to look over the list and point out any oddities that you may find through this thread. I will make sure all the issues are addressed before and after the patch are released.

    Thank you!
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    Matt "Bayohne" Hilton - Community Team

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