Thread: Recipe changes in 1.19

It's good that you are thinking of these issues from the consumer perspective. It's not always so easy to understand the meaning behind changes and information even though it may be the case on the development end, especially since it goes through the translation process.

It's a gigantous patch, so these things can happen.

Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

Uhhmm. Now I am more confused than ever. I thought I understood how this was all going to work before. The way i understood it is these items will be usable with the old recipes for a while longer then the old recipes and these items like nuggets would no longer be usable. If thats the case then say that. No need to make this complicated.

Just say something along the lines of "This list of items will continue to be usable with old recipes until a future patch removes the old recipes and makes this list of items useless."

I think the issue here is that people are reading one thing and reading too much into it. They may or may not choose to remove certain recipes but I did not see anywhere in the patch notes about them eliminating any recipes. They have changed some and those were listed. So the old recipe was replaced meaning that only the old recipe was removed from the game and not the items used to make them. The best way to describe what they did was "streamlining" Example:

Iron ingot from start: Old Recipe Tree- Iron Ore x 4 + 1FC---> Iron Nugget x5 +1FC
New Recipe- Iron Ore x3 +1FC

This does not remove Iron Nuggets from the game. It just means they are not in that synth...making Iron Ingots far easier and less expensive to produce and allowing the player to skip making the nuggets in order to get what they want. They are trying to eliminate the "middle" synths or the prep work needed to do what people want to do to level a craft. That was where the really boring grind was at was burning Shards and Crystals to produce one product which you were getting no skill off of and then having to make another product (again no skill up) and then finally producing the product you actually are going to use to skill. Iron Nuggets will still be around and usable for other synths but now you will produce either Nuggets or Ingots from your Ore.

Am I the only one that's noticed the errors with the Copper Ingots? They say in the very beginning that they're taking the recipes for that out of the game and they won't be used anymore, but yet in the updated recipes they're still listed as a used material? What?

Originally Posted by Kostya

Am I the only one that's noticed the errors with the Copper Ingots? They say in the very beginning that they're taking the recipes for that out of the game and they won't be used anymore, but yet in the updated recipes they're still listed as a used material? What?

They are removed from BSM and ARM, but GLD will still be able to make it.

so about our Elemental Moraines, will they still be included as Leve rewards or are they going to be completely removed as an obtainable item

Also nobody makes Parts so you would generally have to hunt someone down or make them yourself if you want to make the item.

I am still kind of confused. Please answer this question someone. Will any raw materials (not crafted in anyway) be removed from the game or now useless (like many branches)? If so, I want to NPC those, so please help compile a list.

Originally Posted by Mortikhan

Please also keep in mind that things like Fine, River and Sea Sands will still be craftable just not sold, dropped or gathered.

Just wanted to expand on this.

Please take note people : River, Sea and Fine Sand have not been completely removed from the game. While you can't buy, gather, or have it dropped, you can still synth/desynth those items.

Instead, the devs have introduced a recipe that requires Fine Sand (Vintage Hauby). This fairly strongly signifies their intention to keep Fine Sand in the game, albeit far more difficult to get. The increased difficulty in obtaining it will, of course, have a significant impact on the crystal economy given how many people rely on Fine Sand at the moment.

However on the counter-balancing side, the new recipes which will be available won't need as many crystals and shards as they did previously.

Additionally, to keep things in perspective, it is entirely possible to desynth your shards and crystals from fish, without any Fine Sand at all.

No need to panic, the sky isn't falling Henny-Pennys, they haven't prevented us from desynthing crystals in to shards, or fish into crystals or shards, they've just made the intermediate item (Fine Sand) more difficult to obtain.

If the devs think Fine Sand access is far too easy as it stands, then it's within their right and ability to correct that balance. Personally I have absolutely no problem with this.