Thread: 3.05 Job Balance Request Megathread

Originally Posted by Leonus

@Xenitan

This... this is mudra lag. This is the reason people pay for a VPN network to play nin. Mudra lag can single-handly destroy nin dps.

From the sound of it, sounds like blms are having a tough time too, but please do not perpetuate that many things (if anything) is worse than bad ping for Mudras (or lag spikes). It's enough to make grown men cry.

Pretty much the same thing with smn/sch isn't it? The whole bane didn't apply your 3rd dot because you didn't wait an extra sec before applying it seems most common, but the really annoying one is those occasions where you aetherflow, your aetherflow goes on cooldown but you don't get 3 stacks or the MP refresh....just lovely sitting there for a whole min without access to key abilities due to lag

Originally Posted by KokopokiRirinima

Apologies if I haven't seen it. Also please make Machinist damage blunt. I honestly couldn't care if that doesn't make sense for some people, Monks need this to remain on par with Dragoons. We deal less DPS and we have less synergy with other classes (Except for the heal, however fast clears do not require Mantra so why bring a Monk over a Dragoon?), we need something that will work with our blunt resist reduction.

Unfortunately it's a necessity for MNK to contribute the lowest of the 3 melee as they are, in my and apparently the dev team's opinion. Dragon Kick is simply too strong as of SCoB and beyond, it makes things so much more survivable it can be the difference between forcing a Succor for a large portion of mechanics in T13, to everyone surviving consistently without Succor with DK up. That, and 20% Mantra, are why of the three melee, it will rightfully contribute the lowest DPS of the three. If, say, MNK did do the same amount as DRG/NIN's contribution, it'd just be the permanently go to melee as it stands and then DRG or NIN would just be plain inferior and asking for buffs.

It's not a very kind way to balance them but that's how it currently is, unfortunately. Upping MNK DPS won't fix it, some other things would have to change.

Originally Posted by Sleigh

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I always found it funny that in FCoB, MNK was the best support class. What I would like to see, not at all plausible until another expansion, is to have real support classes. It would need to have it's own role. 5 man dungeons would have a tank, healer, support, and 2 dps. All main buffs and debuffs would be removed from all not support classes and given to support classes. Mudra, virus, dragon kick debuff, rage of halone debuff; and all slashing, blunt, piercing debuffs. In my opinion all the end game progression in 2.0 required a bard, and 3.0 will probably require a BRD/MCH.

Originally Posted by Xenos74

Pretty much the same thing with smn/sch isn't it? The whole bane didn't apply your 3rd dot because you didn't wait an extra sec before applying it seems most common, but the really annoying one is those occasions where you aetherflow, your aetherflow goes on cooldown but you don't get 3 stacks or the MP refresh....just lovely sitting there for a whole min without access to key abilities due to lag

No not even close to the same thing the Bane missing DoTs is simply because DoTs will not be transferred at full duration. There are times Mudra lag is so bad it will revert a completed Mudra. Like this: chi -> ten -> jin -> *suiton icon* -> as you are hitting ninjutsu -> reverts back to Katon; and some instances very infuriating when it does happen is when you do catch it and go to hit 'jin' it recognizes it as hitting 'jin' twice and poof rabbit medium. Rather than waiting for SE to fix it, I decided to not send anymore time with the job.

MCH
Increase Hotshot increase to 10%. Increase Ricochet cooldown to 90s. Increase Ricochet potency to 150+200 split between all targets. Reduce hypercharge cooldown to 90s. Allow turrets to contribute to wildfire. Allow turrets to benefit from Hotshot damage increase.
Our damage is centered around wildfire, our major cooldowns should at least line up with it.

DRG are currently top dps in everything I've been in and they get a buff. Lol. Glad I'm leveling mine.

They didn't get a buff, they are just less punished for missing the particular positionals listed.

Originally Posted by Houston009

They didn't get a buff, they are just less punished for missing the particular positionals listed.

I know it doesn't change their max dps. I just find it funny that the strongest dps in the game right now is one of the only classes buffed (and I do consider it a buff because it helps even players who aren't really good do better).

Yea, its because they cry the loudest. Ninjas should make a ton of threads about how non-existent our TP is.