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    It doesn't matter if the majority of the player base isn't interested in PvP. In a week of daily 180 min duty finder queues I got into 1 Frontline on Odin. Which is part of the largest server group on EU. It's the worst frequency of any game I've ever played. So let's say 10-30% of the people play PvP. If for instance the game had 500k concurrent users playing, that's 50 000 PvP players on any given time, if you convert it into 10%. You're telling me it takes a week of extremely long queues on the most populated EU server group to get into 1 Frontline, with this amount of players? A Frontline is 24.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucidbro View Post
    It doesn't matter if the majority of the player base isn't interested in PvP. In a week of daily 180 min duty finder queues I got into 1 Frontline on Odin. Which is part of the largest server group on EU. It's the worst frequency of any game I've ever played. So let's say 10-30% of the people play PvP. If for instance the game had 500k concurrent users playing, that's 50 000 PvP players on any given time, if you convert it into 10%. You're telling me it takes a week of extremely long queues on the most populated EU server group to get into 1 Frontline, with this amount of players? A Frontline is 24.
    WoW has 7 million accounts active, but it can still take over an hour to get into Ashran, so yes. I don't think PvP queue times is at all relevant to the population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    WoW has 7 million accounts active, but it can still take over an hour to get into Ashran, so yes. I don't think PvP queue times is at all relevant to the population.
    Also the same week I got into 5 Wolves den matches. That's 8 people. And you can get into BG's in WoW in no time, same with arena.
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    No idea what their subscriber base is at, but I have a very strong feeling that the most recent World of Warcraft expansion has boosted their numbers in this game. I am speaking from personal experience, but that expansion drove me and a friend of mine into the arms of SE, lol.

    Enjoying this game so I am happy it happened =).
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    30% arent interested in pvp, try 1% in this game.

    i also dont think queues are cross data centers, no datacenter will have 500k concurrent players, that would be like 3-4 million subs in just one datacenter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucidbro View Post
    Well, just look at how hard it is to get into PvP on any server. The player base isn't all that big.
    That's because the pvp in this game is awful.

    People come here for the PvE
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nague View Post
    30% arent interested in pvp, try 1% in this game.

    i also dont think queues are cross data centers, no datacenter will have 500k concurrent players, that would be like 3-4 million subs in just one datacenter.
    1% is impossible, it really is. No MMORPG I know of has had anything even close to that number. 10-30% is realistic in this game. And I never said anything about queues being cross data centers. I said that if you just take 10% of 500k concurrent players, which is a fairly mild estimation, that's 50k of PvP players. So why is the largest Data center in EU having such a difficult time in getting a game going? No way is the player base as big as 1 million, absolutely no way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucidbro View Post
    Also the same week I got into 5 Wolves den matches. That's 8 people. And you can get into BG's in WoW in no time, same with arena.
    They are also extremely popular in wow unlike here.

    I have queued for frontline 3 times ever when it first came out, wolves den maybe twice. I have never seen either of my roomates do them ever do any of it. There is also rarely pvp changes or additions. I can count the amount of times I have had or heard any kind of pvp conversation ingame on one hand.

    Seriously, PvP queues do not decide a games population, just drop it and find something more solid.
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    730k as of April 2015. http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...y_730k_active/

    Respectable numbers but nothing to brag about. I feel like FFXIV is missing something to make it a great MMO instead of just being an ok MMO. Having played tank, melee, ranged and healer since EA I have experienced a lot of what this game has to offer. I still think that making boss mechanics random will make the boss fights somewhat more interesting while grinding. As it stands right now, once you've beaten a newly created content, you're just going back doing the same thing over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucidbro View Post
    Well, just look at how hard it is to get into PvP on any server. The player base isn't all that big.
    No, it just means not many players enjoy PvP as much as you do.
    PvP isn't some holy grail that all desire. Personally, unless its in a zero ping environment, PvP is a bloody nightmare, especially for melee.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    They are also extremely popular in wow unlike here
    Popular with the Bots for sure, lol. There were reports of virtually entire Battleground teams just running clockwise around the map not doing anything because both teams were comprised of honor farming bots.
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    Last edited by Sylve; 07-15-2015 at 02:54 AM.

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