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  1. #61
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    I enjoyed seeing Diablos the other day, I hear Odin is somewhere. I like FF so I want to see these dungeons. SE doesnt need to gate off content with content. If I want to explore I can do it when I'm ready.
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  2. #62
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    Aeon Genesis
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    Lancer Lv 61
    I loved doing the old hard mode dungeons when I started back in Janurary. I started doing them around maybe end of March/beginning of April. They are some really nice dungeons, and give you practice with your class with harder mechanics. Some of them I like better than the 60 dungeons. No one told you to head right to 60 with the MSQ and not do any of the sidequests to unlock stuff. I'm not going to say you were right or wrong because that doesn't matter, you played how you wanted to which is what matters.

    You really should just do the dungeons when you have some free time and are looking for something to do. Don't do them as a means to unlock the roulette. Roulette isn't necessary for anything, I rarely do it except when I'm leveling alts. I got full law gear just from doing Expert Roulette. Just do them for fun and for some glamor gear. Also they aren't just rehashed same versions of the normal dungeons. They are redesigned with new enemies, new bosses, and new layouts.
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  3. #63
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Then I'm wrong about them. I'd still rather see them in the roulette than be force to do them to unlock the roulette.
    Forced to enjoy content that is new to you? :/

    Back in the day, you could do a roulette without unlocking all of the dungeons connected to it. However, people would purposely not unlock certain dungeons (WP) so that they never got it. So the devs implemented the lockout. That way pops weren't horrible for dungeons that weren't favored by the tome farmers.
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    Last edited by Elim; 07-15-2015 at 12:29 AM.

  4. #64
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    I enjoyed seeing Diablos the other day, I hear Odin is somewhere. I like FF so I want to see these dungeons. SE doesnt need to gate off content with content. If I want to explore I can do it when I'm ready.
    So just do them when you are ready. Enjoy them, don't feel rushed, the roulette is not that big of a deal, and you can just google how to get into the dungeons if you don't know it.

    This way you also don't have to pray to the RNG gods that they will put you into a dungeon you did finish already instead of a new one.
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  5. #65
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    Well see you had two month before experiencing them. I'd be ok with running them in 30 days now I'm just bothered by the few tomestones I'm missing out on.
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  6. #66
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Most of them feel very similar tho. Sastash being one of the noteable exceptions.
    wat

    I guess they did if you didn't follow the story...?
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Forced to enjoy content that is new to you? :/

    Back in the day, you could do a roulette without unlocking all of the dungeons connected to it. However, people would purposely not unlock certain dungeons (WP) so that they never got it. So the devs implemented the lockout. That way pops weren't horrible for dungeons that weren't favored by the tome farmers.
    "YOU'RE GOING RO RUN THIS CONTENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT!"
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  8. #68
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Well see you had two month before experiencing them. I'd be ok with running them in 30 days now I'm just bothered by the few tomestones I'm missing out on.
    You really shouldn't worry about it too much. You'll probably get more tombs on average by running another expert with the new player bonus. Unlock the high levels at your leisure and enjoy them imo.
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  9. #69
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    "YOU'RE GOING RO RUN THIS CONTENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT!"
    Huh? Not sure how you got that from my post.

    In no time, with or without high roulette, you'll have full ilv170 gear. It is easier than ever to gear up with endgame starter tome gear. Then as you grind hunts and alex to upgrade your gear you'll end up with tons of extra tomes.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu_Pizza View Post
    Everyone keeps saying I rushed the content, I didn't even know there was content. These dungeons are all but hidden to new players. Now that the MSQ rewards tons of exp the only time I would have naturally found them is when I level an alt and do side quests.
    During MSQ you visited many times the Seventh Heaven in Mor Dhona. Haven't you see all the NPCs with quest icons there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Forced to enjoy content that is new to you? :/

    Back in the day, you could do a roulette without unlocking all of the dungeons connected to it. However, people would purposely not unlock certain dungeons (WP) so that they never got it. So the devs implemented the lockout. That way pops weren't horrible for dungeons that weren't favored by the tome farmers.
    It was because of Sirius Tower, not Wanderer Palace ^^
    People just didn't unlock it after they have read in the forum how hard it is, so it don't show up in their roulette. Until SE changed it that you have to unlock it.
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-15-2015 at 01:08 AM.

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