I enjoyed seeing Diablos the other day, I hear Odin is somewhere. I like FF so I want to see these dungeons. SE doesnt need to gate off content with content. If I want to explore I can do it when I'm ready.
I enjoyed seeing Diablos the other day, I hear Odin is somewhere. I like FF so I want to see these dungeons. SE doesnt need to gate off content with content. If I want to explore I can do it when I'm ready.
So just do them when you are ready. Enjoy them, don't feel rushed, the roulette is not that big of a deal, and you can just google how to get into the dungeons if you don't know it.
This way you also don't have to pray to the RNG gods that they will put you into a dungeon you did finish already instead of a new one.

Yeah Diablos was fun (though hes been very burnable for a long time now), and Odin is a trial probably the hardest non EX trial from ARR (with the possible exception of Mistrals Ballad: Ultimas Bane) so the DF is pretty barren for it especially since it only rewards glamor gear so whe you unlock it I suggest putting a group together from your friends or FC to tackle it.
My personal favorite level 50 dungeon is Hullbreaker Isle, its a very beautiful dungeon.
You also mentioned that people expected you to grind other classes? well unfortunately that's a holdover from the original way they did the Class/Job system, there are skills that are essential to play certain jobs that you have to grind other classes to a certain level to get. The 3 main ones are if you play WAR or DRK you really need to have Gladiator at level 22 for provoke for any tank swaps. SCH, WHM, AST and to a certain extent SMN you need to have Thaumaturge at level 26 for Swiftcast mostly for raising people, And MNK, NIN, BRD and MCH need to have lancer at level 22 for invigorate or they will have TP issues. Its a bad system and they are trying to move away from it with the new jobs abandoning base classes.
I loved doing the old hard mode dungeons when I started back in Janurary. I started doing them around maybe end of March/beginning of April. They are some really nice dungeons, and give you practice with your class with harder mechanics. Some of them I like better than the 60 dungeons. No one told you to head right to 60 with the MSQ and not do any of the sidequests to unlock stuff. I'm not going to say you were right or wrong because that doesn't matter, you played how you wanted to which is what matters.
You really should just do the dungeons when you have some free time and are looking for something to do. Don't do them as a means to unlock the roulette. Roulette isn't necessary for anything, I rarely do it except when I'm leveling alts. I got full law gear just from doing Expert Roulette. Just do them for fun and for some glamor gear. Also they aren't just rehashed same versions of the normal dungeons. They are redesigned with new enemies, new bosses, and new layouts.
Well see you had two month before experiencing them. I'd be ok with running them in 30 days now I'm just bothered by the few tomestones I'm missing out on.


You really shouldn't worry about it too much. You'll probably get more tombs on average by running another expert with the new player bonus. Unlock the high levels at your leisure and enjoy them imo.
well at least you are 60 already, imagine being a lvl1....



High level roulette isn't necessary for farming law tomes. It's not even that great. It's only 20 more than doing one of the expert dungeons, it's less if you get a new player in the expert dungeon, and is only available once per day.
Just unlock it at your own pace. Not having it is keeping you from nothing.
When in doubt, assume sarcasm

Sorry the game makes you play content? You have to run it one time before unlocking, why does this blow your mind?

Is this individual gonna complain about having to do dungeons to progression MSQ as well?
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