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  1. #71
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    Is this really why the boards have seen a huge influx of Archeoskin and up? Well, guess I won't be able to do these as often now... I just thought there were a ton of people on my server putting them up daily :<
    No, you can still only get one per 18 hours. People are selling them for less because they probably don't drop anything particularly great, and there will be a lot of people who focused on the MSQ and leveling a combat job to 60 over gathering which might just now be starting to poke around for maps and the like. In this case "faster" means checking nodes as they respawn to save yourself time getting your one map.
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  2. #72
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by monterrey4ever View Post
    No, it just saves you time on the gathering phase, you just open the gathering window, see contents, if the map / hidden item you want is not listed, just close the gathering window and move to the next node. You dont need to actually gather the nodes to make them refresh. Just try it on a small zone and you will learn easily how the node spawn works.
    ^ exactly this. Personally, I haven't been doing it; I go to search for my maps at nodes that have something that's of use to me. I have a lot of crafters to level up, and hunting for maps helps grind mats and gatherer exp. ^^
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  3. #73
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    Leknaat Phoenix
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 70
    I only got around to experimenting with it a little bit (Got about 100 earth crystals between 3 conversions) before I went to sleep last night. I was thinking to myself "Oh good no need to send my retainers out compuslively on crystal gathers" I was going to play around with it some more after I turned in my GC items when I woke up but... /lesigh.... maintenance (and not done turning in GC items)

    Hope this is working as intended (for the most part - the clusters... could use a bit of a nerf... ^^
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  4. 07-15-2015 11:52 AM
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    Got my answer.

  5. #74
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    Jinglybell's Avatar
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    Myori Mittens
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Do any of the people saying this is an exploit even have a 60 gathering class? To do you the rotation he showed takes 600 gp and to get 300+ rating you need fairly high perception (hq main hand id suppose). Even with cordials (every 3 mins) it takes forever to restore 600 gp, even doing the thing where you ping 3 diff nodes to refresh it. Am I missing something here? SO yes it makes it a LOT faster but I HIGHLY doubt the emergency maint was for this. I mean square completely ignores the rmt bots that collect more crystals then this since forever.

    Im glad crystals will be cheaper/easier for legit people to gather , the rmts will have to go bot something else maybe.
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  6. #75
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    To be honest, its actually good we get several clusters and crystals from the moraines.
    The prices on some of the servers I have seen is downright ridiculous. The pricing needs to come down. Its shouldnt cost 3-4k in crystals (not including the cost of materials) just to make a level 51 piece of armor etc...

    Likely this has nothing to do with the maintenance. Aether took an additional 40 mins on their maintenance to bring the servers up after the scheduled maintenance, and shortly after Mana and Gaia data centers started having issues. If anything the emergency maint, is in regards to that.
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  7. #76
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    Shai Hulud
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinglybell View Post
    Do any of the people saying this is an exploit even have a 60 gathering class? To do you the rotation he showed takes 600 gp and to get 300+ rating you need fairly high perception (hq main hand id suppose).
    ... or as I said, you could just fish up a fish and try it yourself. ^^
    No GP necessary!

    It's working as intended. The fish are regulated by fishing RNG - you got to get it to bite, you got to reel it in, its randomly generated size effects the quality of the reduction, etc - but still a 8/8 fish literally exploded with clusters. I was quite pleased.
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  8. #77
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    Gonzo Sabroso
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Leknaat View Post
    I only got around to experimenting with it a little bit (Got about 100 earth crystals between 3 conversions) before I went to sleep last night. I was thinking to myself "Oh good no need to send my retainers out compuslively on crystal gathers" I was going to play around with it some more after I turned in my GC items when I woke up but... /lesigh.... maintenance (and not done turning in GC items)

    Hope this is working as intended (for the most part - the clusters... could use a bit of a nerf... ^^
    I sincerely believe the amount of crystal is intended, but the amount of clusters is wrong, plus they didnt consider, or completely forgot how easily you can refresh nodes making the ephemeral node spawn trivial.
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    Last edited by monterrey4ever; 07-15-2015 at 11:57 AM. Reason: ephemeral!

  9. #78
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    To be honest, its actually good we get several clusters and crystals from the moraines.
    The prices on some of the servers I have seen is downright ridiculous. The pricing needs to come down. Its shouldnt cost 3-4k in crystals (not including the cost of materials) just to make a level 51 piece of armor etc...
    Especially when the armor requires multiple archaeoleather, each one requiring 3 archaeoskins (low droprate) + 1 coethan tea leaf (unspoiled node item).
    The difficult to obtain mats were a shock to me at first, but I like the idea that crafting is more about materials now than collecting RMT Skittles.
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  10. #79
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by monterrey4ever View Post
    I sincerely believe the amount of crystal is intended, but the amount of clusters is wrong, plus they didnt consider, or completely forgot how easily you can refresh nodes making the ephemeral node spawn trivial.
    But it's not trivial... no matter if you use the refresh trick or not, getting back 600 GP is no joke. You can't get back 600 GP in the time it takes you to go tag two nodes and walk back to the Ephemeral unless maybe you have a hi-cordial. Those have a cooldown of several minutes on them, so this isn't really spammable per se and the fact that you can make the Ephemeral node repop almost instantly is pretty much a moot point.
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  11. #80
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    Myori Mittens
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    Armorer Lv 80
    With fishing you cant refresh the node though, so youre getting about the same because its slower to mooch them up. Using that one new skill that increases hq (helps with mooching) takes 470 gp. So yes I agree completely with you. I have reduced some of the tupuxuaras and pteranodons.

    (edit also I meant to quote Shai oh well ^^; )
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    Last edited by Jinglybell; 07-15-2015 at 12:04 PM.

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