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  1. 07-15-2015 11:52 AM
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    Got my answer.

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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Honestly didn't think this was a secret...
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    Those nodes pop about once per realtime hour, and the item that can be converted doesn't always appear every time the node does...
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wings View Post
    Those nodes pop about once per realtime hour, and the item that can be converted doesn't always appear every time the node does...
    Not exactly. The nodes come in this manner.
    Botanist:
    4am-8am=Hinterlands(Earth) The Answering Quarter
    8am-12pm=Forelands(Earth)Avalonia Fallen
    12pm-4pm=?
    4pm-8pm=Churning Mist(Earth) Four Arms
    8pm-12am=Sea of Clouds(Wind) Voor Sian Siran
    12am-4am=Western Highlands (Wind) Twinpools


    and
    Miner:
    4am-8am=Forelands(Fire) Avalonia Fallen
    8am-12pm=Hinterlands(Fire) The Makers' Quarters
    12pm-4pm=Churning Mist(Fire) The Landlord Colony
    4pm-8pm=Sea of Cloud(Lightning) Voor Sian Siran
    8pm-12am=Western Highlands(Lightning) Red Rim
    12am-4am=?

    So if one has both Miner and Botanist it's easily viable for them to rotate constantly in an hourly period without stop which is why if this is the exploit causing the issue you could see from above how it would easily inflate the market if it's not intended to work that way.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Not exactly. The nodes come in this manner.
    Botanist:
    4am-8am=Hinterlands(Earth) The Answering Quarter
    8am-12pm=Forelands(Earth)Avalonia Fallen
    12pm-4pm=?
    4pm-8pm=Churning Mist(Earth) Four Arms
    8pm-12am=Sea of Clouds(Wind) Voor Sian Siran
    12am-4am=Western Highlands (Wind) Twinpools


    and
    Miner:
    4am-8am=Forelands(Fire) Avalonia Fallen
    8am-12pm=Hinterlands(Fire) The Makers' Quarters
    12pm-4pm=Churning Mist(Fire) The Landlord Colony
    4pm-8pm=Sea of Cloud(Lightning) Voor Sian Siran
    8pm-12am=Western Highlands(Lightning) Red Rim
    12am-4am=?

    So if one has both Miner and Botanist it's easily viable for them to rotate constantly in an hourly period without stop which is why if this is the exploit causing the issue you could see from above how it would easily inflate the market if it's not intended to work that way.
    I wouldn't call that an exploit.
    unless you call gathering from different unspoiled nodes in a row is an exploit.

    PS: thanks for the schedule btw ;p

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsync View Post
    That's odd. Just before this maintenance I was mining and saw one keep repopping every five minutes or so. I hadn't seen that before and had assumed it was once every hour. I didn't know about this exploit, but I'm guessing that someone around me did considering the motions they were making.
    I think the way it works is that it acts as a normal node during the time frame where it can spawn.
    so basically: ephemeral > normal node > normal node > ephemeral > normal node > normal node > you know the rest
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    Last edited by hagare; 07-15-2015 at 11:40 AM.

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    Dsync's Avatar
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    Entity Entatas
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Wings View Post
    Those nodes pop about once per realtime hour, and the item that can be converted doesn't always appear every time the node does...
    That's odd. Just before this maintenance I was mining and saw one keep repopping every five minutes or so. I hadn't seen that before and had assumed it was once every hour. I didn't know about this exploit, but I'm guessing that someone around me did considering the motions they were making.
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    Lokin Modar
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 60
    this may explain the emergency maintenance today...

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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Do people here REALLY think this is an exploit and that this deserves an emergency maintenance?

    REALLY??
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    Jaerith Asura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    Do people here REALLY think this is an exploit and that this deserves an emergency maintenance?

    REALLY??
    I do not think it deserves an emergency maintenance and would really really not like for it to be an exploit but let's face facts, Clusters being easier to obtain than ANY other Crystal is most likely totally not their intended design. I hope it is intended but it really is most likely a big exploit that is completely not the way they planned. If the other Crystals were easier to gain in such huge amounts then maybe I would think it was by design.

    Either way, this is absolutely not worthy of an emergency prime time maintenance if that is what this is for.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Crafting is shifting toward harder to obtain materials, NOT harder to obtain shards. In 3.0 we are spending more time farming enemies and unspoiled nodes, INSTEAD of smacking nodes in a circular pattern for 4 hours just to farm color crystals.

    I think this is an intentional shift, to makes us focus more on what we are making rather than on generic one-size fits all crystals. The hardest part of 2.0 crafting was getting enough crystals, it was the same grind on every class, and it presented no challenge or leveling experience for gatherers. I'm glad this isn't continuing forward.
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