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    Shai's Avatar
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    Shai Hulud
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    I'd just like to point out that you can Aetherial Reduce certain collectable fish with absolutely no "skills"
    You just fish them up and reduce them.
    You literally reel in the fish, then click reduction and instant clusters.

    They give between 45-60 Clusters.

    There's no skill exploit or unintended effect happening here.
    This is exactly what Aetherial Reduction is for and working exactly as they intended it to work.
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    People complaining about this post and people telling everyone about it.... just means you people using it have a high chance of a ban hammer since the Terms of Usage explicitly state that if you find an exploit you need to report it and not abuse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frysia View Post
    People complaining about this post and people telling everyone about it.... just means you people using it have a high chance of a ban hammer since the Terms of Usage explicitly state that if you find an exploit you need to report it and not abuse it.
    I've been telling people about aetherial reduction for two weeks now, because it isn't an exploit. It's a mechanic that enables SKILLED gatherers to farm crystals better than lv 25 RMT bots. It's a positive design shift in gathering and crafting.

    You might as well file a report because you've found an ilevel 190 weapon that does more damage than your ilevel 135 relic.
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    I think the people who are screaming exploit are just upset that they personally weren't smart enough to figure this out on their own. It's not an exploit, people have been doing this since the day people had gear to do so- all you had to do was basic math, use the skills GIVEN to us- and aetherial reduction.
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    I only got around to experimenting with it a little bit (Got about 100 earth crystals between 3 conversions) before I went to sleep last night. I was thinking to myself "Oh good no need to send my retainers out compuslively on crystal gathers" I was going to play around with it some more after I turned in my GC items when I woke up but... /lesigh.... maintenance (and not done turning in GC items)

    Hope this is working as intended (for the most part - the clusters... could use a bit of a nerf... ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leknaat View Post
    I only got around to experimenting with it a little bit (Got about 100 earth crystals between 3 conversions) before I went to sleep last night. I was thinking to myself "Oh good no need to send my retainers out compuslively on crystal gathers" I was going to play around with it some more after I turned in my GC items when I woke up but... /lesigh.... maintenance (and not done turning in GC items)

    Hope this is working as intended (for the most part - the clusters... could use a bit of a nerf... ^^
    I sincerely believe the amount of crystal is intended, but the amount of clusters is wrong, plus they didnt consider, or completely forgot how easily you can refresh nodes making the ephemeral node spawn trivial.
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    Last edited by monterrey4ever; 07-15-2015 at 11:57 AM. Reason: ephemeral!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monterrey4ever View Post
    I sincerely believe the amount of crystal is intended, but the amount of clusters is wrong, plus they didnt consider, or completely forgot how easily you can refresh nodes making the ephemeral node spawn trivial.
    But it's not trivial... no matter if you use the refresh trick or not, getting back 600 GP is no joke. You can't get back 600 GP in the time it takes you to go tag two nodes and walk back to the Ephemeral unless maybe you have a hi-cordial. Those have a cooldown of several minutes on them, so this isn't really spammable per se and the fact that you can make the Ephemeral node repop almost instantly is pretty much a moot point.
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    Gonzo Sabroso
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    But it's not trivial... no matter if you use the refresh trick or not, getting back 600 GP is no joke. You can't get back 600 GP in the time it takes you to go tag two nodes and walk back to the Ephemeral unless maybe you have a hi-cordial. Those have a cooldown of several minutes on them, so this isn't really spammable per se and the fact that you can make the Ephemeral node repop almost instantly is pretty much a moot point.
    Well yeah, but regular Cordial costs peanuts in Grand Company, 300 gp on 5 min Cooldown, plus your idle GP regen rate. We are still seeing a very good Cluster income per hour =P
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    Do any of the people saying this is an exploit even have a 60 gathering class? To do you the rotation he showed takes 600 gp and to get 300+ rating you need fairly high perception (hq main hand id suppose). Even with cordials (every 3 mins) it takes forever to restore 600 gp, even doing the thing where you ping 3 diff nodes to refresh it. Am I missing something here? SO yes it makes it a LOT faster but I HIGHLY doubt the emergency maint was for this. I mean square completely ignores the rmt bots that collect more crystals then this since forever.

    Im glad crystals will be cheaper/easier for legit people to gather , the rmts will have to go bot something else maybe.
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    Shai Hulud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinglybell View Post
    Do any of the people saying this is an exploit even have a 60 gathering class? To do you the rotation he showed takes 600 gp and to get 300+ rating you need fairly high perception (hq main hand id suppose).
    ... or as I said, you could just fish up a fish and try it yourself. ^^
    No GP necessary!

    It's working as intended. The fish are regulated by fishing RNG - you got to get it to bite, you got to reel it in, its randomly generated size effects the quality of the reduction, etc - but still a 8/8 fish literally exploded with clusters. I was quite pleased.
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