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  1. #1
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    ManaKing's Avatar
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    Dark Lich
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60

    I just want to be able to use Blood Weapon in Grit

    I could ask for a couple of QoL changes, but I think this is the only one that I really care about.

    Mentally, I just know I have a cooldown I can't use while MTing which frustrates me. I can either drop Grit...which costs 1200ish MP to turn back on, or not really use it. During extended burn phases or Adds only phase like Bismarks Corona or A3 when the boss is a tornado it does get used...but I'd like to use it more.

    I would accept less MP or no Haste buff while in Grit. I just want to get some consistent value out of it as MT.
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  2. #2
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    PenelopeWinn's Avatar
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    Penelope Do'urden
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I wanna be able to get double AA's while in shield oath myself. Also wouldn't mind fell cleaving while in defi
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    Bluethroat Cantus
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by PenelopeWinn View Post
    I wanna be able to get double AA's while in shield oath myself. Also wouldn't mind fell cleaving while in defi
    That comparison is a little off. Fell Cleave is basically an alternate version of Inner Beast, and doesn't even take up an additional skill slot when macro'd properly, and Shield Oath's double auto attacks are an intelligently designed feature of the PLD's OT abilities. Blood Weapon feels like it was thrown together at the last second and just tossed in because someone realized 2 days before launch that DRK needs some form of MP regen outside of MT.
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    Last edited by Kiteless; 07-14-2015 at 07:59 AM.

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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Sword Oath. You get the extra auto-attack from Sword Oath.

    I also don't like OP's idea either.
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    DRK's abilities working against themselves are why I went back to warrior. I'll give it another go after it gets revamped.
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    Kiteless's Avatar
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    Bluethroat Cantus
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    DRK's abilities working against themselves are why I went back to warrior. I'll give it another go after it gets revamped.
    Likewise. I found out that the best way to get good with DRK was to play WAR instead.
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    Character
    Lotharius Lionheart
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    Likewise. I found out that the best way to get good with DRK was to play WAR instead.
    That's not the point the person is getting across the abilities to that person don't feel right and playing a class that doesn't feel right and not fun is one not to play at all. Playing a class that you're not having fun with will just burn you out and make you leave the game.
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    Yomiko Readman
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    While I don't agree with what OP wants, can't he just pop Shadowskin, switch off Grit and then pop Blood Weapon?

    You still have that 20% mitigation for some while.

    Blood Weapon is off Grit because it's supposed to be specially for OT. Like Sword Oath and Deliverance. It also generates mana for the extra Dark Arts skills that you may use as an OT because Blood Price is useless when you are OT and then you would be spamming Syphon Strike all day. The added skill speed is a bonus to your DPS as well. However, DRK's mana management is also a joke and it's very easy to get back a moderate amount of MP, you'd still have Blood Weapon as a tool to generate more as a backup plan for spamming Dark Arts.

    That's how I see it anyways.
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    I actually think DRK works pretty well the more that I played with it. The one gripe why people complain about using Blood Weapon in Grit is due to the poor returns on mp for Blood Price. Its great in large mob pulls but for bosses its terrible and your better off dropping Grit for Blood Weapon. This needs to be fixed to scale with damage and not # of hits. But in retrospect given the stance dancing all classes have now you should probably be used to dropping Grit at some point in a fight.
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  10. #10
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    Greven's Avatar
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    Character
    Chris Von'greven
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Yeah, Blood Weapon seems the OT version of Blood Price. You use it when OTing or when you need a boost in DPS, just like when you switch to Deliverance or Sword Oath and use a DPS Skill.

    It's okay the way it is now.
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