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    I.P. Infringement question

    G'day everyone,

    Anyone know how I can notify SE of an infringement on their IP? Some facebook game is using a badly edited version of the character creation screen to sell their game (like literally they've overlaid some image to the left, edited out Hyur for the class on the screen and that's it, otherwise default character creation screen, race selection mode)
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    Old news, games like League of Angels directly takes 2.0 and 3.0 trailers and 2.0 development screenshots to use it as their own
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    Most likely the games are made by people/companies based in China... meaning there's nothing SE can do about it. China doesn't recognize copyright law (or most laws for that matter) in other countries and doesn't extradite offenders or cooperate in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    Most likely the games are made by people/companies based in China... meaning there's nothing SE can do about it. China doesn't recognize copyright law (or most laws for that matter) in other countries and doesn't extradite offenders or cooperate in any way.
    Considering SE/FFXIV now have a foothold in China; I don't see why the Chinese development team cannot take action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    Considering SE/FFXIV now have a foothold in China; I don't see why the Chinese development team cannot take action.
    I am not familiar with any foothold in China, but that would be irrelevant anyway. There's still nothing that SE could do even if they operate in China. Just operating there doesn't give them any more power than not having operations there. China still doesn't recognize IP law and still wouldn't cooperate or extradite offenders.

    SE could threaten to pull their business out of China, that's about it. And China wouldn't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    I am not familiar with any foothold in China
    SE now operates FFXIV in China as well, though their servers are entirely separate from the rest of ours.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000821.html

    That being said, to the OP, report the offending website to square Enix customer support. They will handle it however they deem necessary. You can use the support ticket here to report a violation: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...=5382&la=1&p=0

    Just fill it out to the best of your knowledge.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 07-14-2015 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    SE now operates FFXIV in China as well, though their servers are entirely separate from the rest of ours.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000821.html

    That being said, to the OP, report the offending website to square Enix customer support. They will handle it however they deem necessary. You can use the support ticket here to report a violation: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...=5382&la=1&p=0

    Just fill it out to the best of your knowledge.
    Thank you, the same game is also using WoW references, so it's going to be interesting to see how long it remains viable.
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    The funny part is that China does actually have copyright laws, but there's so much hand-waving as to what counts as an infringement that it's no surprise noone ever tries to make a claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The funny part is that China does actually have copyright laws, but there's so much hand-waving as to what counts as an infringement that it's no surprise noone ever tries to make a claim.
    They have them, yes, but they don't acknowledge foreign country copyrights. Only within their own country and "whenever they feel like".

    Basically, if SE tried to sue a Chinese company for copyright violation, they'd just never hear a reply back, or they'd get a letter saying that their copyright isn't recognized. And since China doesn't extradite or cooperate in legal issues, they couldn't even get a representative from China to visit the court anyway.
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    Figures, I wouldn't normally give a crap but just seeing it so blatantly publicised just annoyed me a little too much.
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