Will we ever see Ranger or Samurai?

[RentisB]

With Gun and Bow covered I'd say not likely on Ranger. Samurai though I'm sure will be one of the next few since people won't shut up about it.

[ckc22]

What would be the point of ranger? For all intents and purposes Bard is Ranger - they have all their big classic abilities like sidewinder etc. I don't think it would be very unique even if you spun it off of archer, same thing with thief - their big abilities are already in other jobs.

I say this as someone who really wishes they had just made it Ranger and saved bard for one of these instant 30 job only ones focused more on support. But there is no support in the game so I guess this will have to do.

I'm sure samurai will come eventually - I personally don't care if its a tank or dps. I think it could work either way.

I'd really like some more DoM, maybe a Red Mage magic tank with some enspells/spikes. I'd kill for blue mage, but after all they've said I'm not sure they're creative enough to implement it well.

[Greven]

They've already talked about Samurai saying that they choose Dark Knight over it. So, if it was out now it would've been a tank, but Yoshi even said that he sees it more as a DPS. For the Ranger, I don't know, it feels much like a Bard without songs XD

That said right now we have 3 tank 3 healers 2 ranged/supporter, 2 casters (and the SMN is a weird hybrid DoT/Pet/AoE class now) and 3 melee. What we need are a non supporter ranged and a caster more than another melee.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

They've already talked about Samurai saying that they choose Dark Knight over it. So, if it was out now it would've been a tank, but Yoshi even said that he sees it more as a DPS. For the Ranger, I don't know, it feels much like a Bard without songs XD

That said right now we have 3 tank 3 healers 2 ranged/supporter, 2 casters (and the SMN is a weird hybrid DoT/Pet/AoE class now) and 3 melee. What we need are a non supporter ranged and a caster more than another melee.

Or something unique. Like "Coercer"

*Charm* Use charmed creature to attack other creature. Has chance of fighting back or breaking depending on creature. <3

[ckc22]

Or something unique. Like "Coercer"

*Charm* Use charmed creature to attack other creature. Has chance of fighting back or breaking depending on creature. <3

Non support ranged is basically not going to happen.

Also why wouldn't you just call it beastmaster? I'd like to see beastmaster too but still fill like it would be weird to implement - especially with so much instanced content without adds - they'd have to implement a lot of new systems (like jug pets a la XI or something) to make it work.

[AskaRay]

Ranger? Probs not
Samurai? Possibly

Then again, I was completely and utterly wrong about what summons we'd see as primals
spoiler for end of HW

My friend and I were talking about which FF summons would be good primals, he said something like "Man Knights of the Round would be so cool" and I responded with "That's like the ONE summon that won't be a primal cmon man" and well we all see how that turned out

[EdwinLi]

Ranger? Probs not
Samurai? Possibly

Then again, I was completely and utterly wrong about what summons we'd see as primals
spoiler for end of HW

My friend and I were talking about which FF summons would be good primals, he said something like "Man Knights of the Round would be so cool" and I responded with "That's like the ONE summon that won't be a primal cmon man" and well we all see how that turned out

Well he was right. Kotr is a cool Primal fight.

[Kaedan94]

As others have said, we won't get Ranger. BRD essentially took the Ranger role (their base class is "Archer", which is essentially the same thing).

Samurai is very likely. It was hugely popular in FFXI, just like NIN, and they gave us NIN because of that popularity. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Samurai in 4.0

[Arkista]

We'll see SAM in 4.0 for sure. The question is Tank or DPS? Most likely tank, and yes I know SAM was meant as Tank in XI. I have a feeling they are going to be adding in a mage DPS for the next expansion, I hope it is a BLU. Could care less for the healer.

As for RNG, I doubt it would be in 4.0 if ever. Already have BRD and now MCH. Only thing I could see is Yoshida doing an overhaul to BRD, change it to RNG and getting rid of all the crappy BRD song stuff, replace them with RNG skills. Will that happen, doubt it. They could do RNG like the three new Jobs, no class. But the DPS mages are really missing out.

[Eidolon]

I don't think SE will ever attempt to add a 'Ranger.'

Let's face it. It's clear SE doesn't want ranged classes doing as much DPS as Melee. It seems to be part of a risk-reward model. BRD and MCH fill this nice - the lowest DPS in the game with little risk (movement) or near-Mage DPS by being a caster.

In order for them to add a ranger, they would have to find a way to balance a Rangers risk with their reward. I think SE is earnestly worried for the balance in such a case.