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    416to305's Avatar
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    Psycho Bunny
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80

    Do I have to do anything to make Selene work?

    So just got SCH at 30. Seemed straightforward before, would use Sic command and leave it at that. I tried using Selene in a dungeon first but it seemed like she just stood there beside me. Tried Sic but she didn't really seem to do anything for awhile, at least nothing obvious. I then switched to Eos and did Sic also, and you would clearly see it casting things like Embrace often or whatever that shield thing it does is as well. I didn't give Selene more than maybe 3-4 minutes on 1-2 pulls so might have just been impatient but didn't want the party to get mad at me or something. Is Sic the right commend in general as I just wanted healing etc not really attacking? Not sure what I think of SCH, hopefully gets harder later because that Eos thing was doing all the healing for me to the point I hardly ever had to which seems weird since why be a healer if you just have a pet doing auto heal? I'm assuming at 50+ it's more difficult requiring more effort from myself, but right now it's so boring!
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    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    At lower levels your healing output generally out scales damage output. Sic isn't generally good for Faeries in general as when you unlock more of the Fairy skills, you don't want Eos or Selene burning CDs at inappropriate time. A great example would be Eos using Whispering Dawn as soon as someone takes damage--you want to save that for when you need AoE heals.

    Selene at 30 however doesn't have access to many skills. I think you only have Silent Dusk & Embrace? I'd put her on Obey and just spam Silent Dusk on mobs that can be silenced. Most notable is the last boss in Sunken Temple--you should try and Silence the Paralyze since Scholars don't get Leeches until the level 40 class quest is complete.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    As Parawill suggests, learn to use both of your fairies on Obey. Sic is a bad habit to get into since they will inevitably blow their CDs uselessly. You also can't force your fairies to Embrace targets above 80% HP unless you use Obey.
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Sic is ok, but not preferred. The way sic works is, your pet will use all of their cooldowns whenever they become available, normally at the pull. While this is fine in lower level dungeons, it's not really the best way to maximize your class.

    Obey is the standard. While in obey, your pet will continue to heal with embrace like normal but will not use any cooldowns. You activate these manually when it is most needed. Selene will be for your dps and tanks. Spell speed and skill speed buffs for burst. You'll know when to use these when you know each fight. Eos is if you need a little help in healing. Usually you would use Eos if you don't have a whm in the party, or you have undergeared players/don't know the dungeon well. If you're comfortable with the fight and aren't struggling to keep ppl alive, switch to Selene and buff your dps and speed things up.
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    Psycho Bunny
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Awesome thanks so much that's a huge help and makes total sense. I'm glad to hear that because half the reason I wanted to try SCH was because I like the names you see of all the cool abilities happening like Fey Wind or whatever they are. So when I thought it was just the fairy that casts them I was disappointed lol. So that makes sense, thanks everyone!
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Selene still does decently on sic, especially if the fight has no raidwide esunable debuffs. If you don't know a fight id rather have as much uptime on a fight as possible for fey wind than save it for particular periods of burst unless its necessary.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 07-18-2015 at 03:07 AM.

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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Selene still does decently on sic, especially if the fight has no raidwide esunable debuffs. If you don't know a fight id rather have as much uptime on a fight as possible for fey wind than save it for particular periods of burst unless its necessary.
    I don't find that it's as much a matter of saving the CD for burst even as it is a matter of not allowing her to waste it by throwing it up right before the boss is about to jump or the last mob in the pull is dying.

    Left to her own devices she can actually achieve less uptime on Fey Wind due to her AI peculiarities. A good micromanager will trump sic for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I don't find that it's as much a matter of saving the CD for burst even as it is a matter of not allowing her to waste it by throwing it up right before the boss is about to jump or the last mob in the pull is dying.

    Left to her own devices she can actually achieve less uptime on Fey Wind due to her AI peculiarities. A good micromanager will trump sic for sure.
    Once again. Situational. Also assumes you know the fight and when things are going to happen.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Don't ever use Sic for any pet class or you should not be playing a pet class.

    Summoner pets will wipe raids if you don't micro them, and scholar faeries waste cooldowns and are as ineffective as possible. You could get away with have Selene on auto before HW released, but now you have to manually control her, since 100% buff uptime is no longer possible and due to the fact that she blows her esuna even on debuffs that can't be purged....

    And don't even consider Eos on auto. Just no. Please no.
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    Viviza Viza
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Sic is ok, but not preferred. The way sic works is, your pet will use all of their cooldowns whenever they become available, normally at the pull.
    To clarify on this point, your pet will use all of their cooldowns when a situation presents itself to do so. Selene will use Fey Wind whenever she's in combat, Fey Caress whenever a debuff is up on an ally, Silent Dusk when a mob is readying anything with a cast time, and Embrace whenever an ally is below 80% HP.

    The downside is that Selene is not terribly intelligent. She'll try to cleanse debuffs that cannot be removed, she'll try to silence abilities that cannot be silenced, she'll use her haste buff at the wrong times, and she won't heal people that really should be topped off.

    So use Obey. Always!
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