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    Boocraft's Avatar
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    Gladiator Boocraft
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    Ninja Lv 60

    summoner. sic or obey?

    For max DPS. It it better to have your pet on auto pilot or should I control it's abilities for dps?

    What are the high end summoner players doing in raids? Also is it good to macro ruin with sic (if sic is the best option)
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Never use sic for anything.
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Never use sic for anything.
    Sic for Titan Egi is ok! :P

    But yeah, use Obey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Sic for Titan Egi is ok! :P

    But yeah, use Obey.
    Pfft, ok, well... XD
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    Zhycrana Dranix
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    Why can't you have Ifrit on Sic ?

    Am I doing it wrong.

    I don't main SMN but I enjoy playing it on my off time.

    Explain and help

    Thanks !
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix View Post
    Why can't you have Ifrit on Sic ?

    Am I doing it wrong.

    I don't main SMN but I enjoy playing it on my off time.

    Explain and help

    Thanks !
    You don't need him using lower potency AoE or his Stun just because it is off of cooldown. Save it for when you need it. Just let him use Burning Strike/Auto Attack for single targets. Also, being able to time Radiant Shield if you need to can be helpful.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 07-15-2015 at 06:04 AM.

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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    You don't need him using lower potency AoE or his Stun just because it is off of cooldown. Save it for when you need it. Just let him use Burning Strike/Auto Attack for single targets. Also, being able to time Radiant Shield if you need to can be helpful.
    I know I should save Radiant shield, but I like to keep it up so that the tanks dps is boosted as well. Even if it's a little, just like Fey wind boost everyone's dps.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    I know I should save Radiant shield, but I like to keep it up so that the tanks dps is boosted as well. Even if it's a little just like Fey wind boost everyone's dps.
    You don't always have to save Radiant Shield, I usually still try to keep it up as often as possible anyway. In the event that you do want Radiant Shield for a specific time, Ifrit won't care if he's on sic though and will likely already have it on cooldown. Either way, you can still have plenty of uptime, but on Obey the uptime is under your control.

    It's better to have Ifrit using attacks with the most potency instead of blowing off lower potency skills that you don't even need him using. You can command him for whatever other purposes you need. It's not as huge a deal as Garuda wasting Contagion, but the question was 'Sic or Obey'. Obey is better. Sic will work, but Obey allows you to have full control of your damage output rather than having it be at the whim of your pet.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 07-15-2015 at 07:03 AM.

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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    You don't need him using lower potency AoE or his Stun just because it is off of cooldown. Save it for when you need it. Just let him use Burning Strike/Auto Attack for single targets. Also, being able to time Radiant Shield if you need to can be helpful.
    "when you need it" basically never exists, ifrits stun is to unreliable for practical uses, and and his aoe is still a damage increase on single target over not uses it, you could save it for when adds spawn i suppose, but the difference that one hit makes isnt really going to make a difference.

    also as to OP's macroing skills, short answer is never ever macro your skills.
    long answer, using macros avoids the action queue, forcing you to lose a small amount of time on your skills every time you use the macro, in this case also, you have the added problem of you dont always want your pet hitting what you just cast ruin on.
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    Last edited by Zamii; 07-15-2015 at 07:01 AM.

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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    "when you need it" basically never exists.
    I was referring more to the AoE for adds. I agree the Stun is far too unreliable. Either way, the point is you don't want him choosing to use those abilities just because he can.
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