Whelp...Alexander is going to kick us all in the nuts

[Gilraen]

If its atleast as hard as FCoB, don't expect many to clear it till its well overgeared beyond that.

Or Blue Garter melds out the next set of crafted for 8~ of it's members.

[Dualblade]

Or Blue Garter melds out the next set of crafted for 8~ of it's members.

I don't know who all the real good FC/Groups are out there, but if that one is one of the good ones they'll be one of the ones to do so before severe overgearing I assume.

[Gilraen]

I don't know who all the real good FC/Groups are out there, but if that one is one of the good ones they'll be one of the ones to do so before severe overgearing I assume.

Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.

[Dualblade]

Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.

So they'll probably beat it quickly here too then, overmelded gear or not (and first week or not.)

[Sove92]

Uh... Blue Garter are only the ones who beat Final Coil in it's first week in all crafted armor. Overmelded, but it was all crafted.

No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.

[Garlyle]

No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.

This. Blue Garter did world first Twintania I believe though, and possible Nael as well. But Lucrezia were world first in Final Coil.

That said, I don't expect them to one-week this. They've described Alexander Savage as "harder than a theoretical Final Coil (Savage)". If this holds true I fully expect groups to barely be able to clear one or two floors in the first week simply due to the lack of relevant gear.

Also to the OP, I seriously doubt the next chunk of 4-man dungeons will require near perfect gear, new tomes available or no.

[Gilraen]

No they did't, only Lucrezia and Collision beat it the first week, BG had world 4th, after DnT.

You are absolutely right. Heh, used to Blue Garter being in the limelight that I kind of glossed over who did what. Still was an impressive feat using gear that would later be deemed by Square to be below the iL requirement.

[PArcher]

You are absolutely right. Heh, used to Blue Garter being in the limelight that I kind of glossed over who did what. Still was an impressive feat using gear that would later be deemed by Square to be below the iL requirement.

I'm pretty sure their left-side gear didn't make a ton of difference, crafted or no. At least not compared to their accessories, which made a world of difference. Heck, leveling my tanks I use my old melded i110 set (DF healers make me cry sometimes) even in the Library. Can't use it after 60 due to the ilv requirement (though really...full STR or maybe 1 or 2 VIT accessories if you have a bad healer is fine in the 60 dungeons, so...)

[Dererk]

Or Blue Garter melds out the next set of crafted for 8~ of it's members.

from what I understood you'd need Alexander normal mode gear to have a chance at getting clears in savage and that crafted gear will be worthles in the new raids.

Where did it say Alex hard won't be in DF? It's just like those who said Alex story would be full party and you couldn't que solo for it. I won't believe that Alex hard won't be in DF till I see proof especially after I was told about Alex story being required full party and not solo.

Are you insane no one in their right mind would qu savage in DF 2nd Coil is still premade required.